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SSLDM RFC Discussion

Review period: 2009 July 21 – 2009 September 15 (Extended!)

July 20, 2009 Page created to encapsulate the discussion of the Simple Spectrum Line DM RFC process.

See http://www.ivoa.net/Documents/SSLDM/20090714/

SSLDM Use Case:

The main use of the SSLDM is to provide data model support to the Simple Line Access Protocol, so to allow the comsuption of Spectral Line List databases using a common/standard interface.

SSLDM"> SLAP Implementations using SSLDM:

  • SLAP Server Name: IASD
    • Type: Observational
    • Publisher: ESA
    • Service Description: SLAP Access to ISO Astronomical Spectral Lines Database
    • Contact: ESA-VO team
    • Spectral Coverage: IR
    • Number of Records: 300 transitions
    • Comment: Client: VOSpec

  • SLAP Name: LERMA
    • Type: Theoretical
    • Publisher: Observatoire de Paris
    • Service Description: LERMA SLAP access to the CDMS and JPL molecules correlated to the Basecol database
    • Contact: N. Moreau & M.L. Dubernet
    • Spectral Coverage: millimetric, sub-millimetric
    • Number of Records: 37500 transitions
    • Comment: Client developed by N. Moreau

  • SLAP Name: NIST
    • Type: Observational
    • Publisher: National Institute of Standards and Technology
    • Contact: Yuri Ralchenko
    • Service Description: SLAP Access to NIST Atomic Spectra Database
    • Spectral Coverage: Multiple Coverage
    • Number of Records: 144000 transitions

  • SLAP Name: CIELO
    • Type: Observational
    • Publisher: ESA
    • Service Description: SLAP Access to XMM-Newton observed spectral lines from CIELO Database
    • Contact: M. Guainazzi & the rest of ESA-VO team
    • Spectral Coverage: X-Ray
    • Number of Records: 2700 transitions

  • SLAP Name: CHIANTI
    • Type: Observational
    • Publisher: Astrogrid using ESAVO DALToolkit
    • Contact: Kevin Benson
    • Service Description: A database for astrophysical emission line spectroscopy
    • Spectral Coverage: Multiple Coverage

SLAP-like Implementations using SSLDM:

  • SLAP Name: ALMA internal SLAP
    • Type: Observational
    • Publisher: ALMA Archive Group at The University of Manchester
    • Contact: Stewart Williams, Andrew Markwick-Kemper, Sandra Etoka & Gary Fuller
    • Service Description: Internal SLAP services to propagate line list within the project. IVOA spectral line list data model used in database schema
    • Spectral Coverage: Radio
    • Client: Splatalogue
    • Not fully compliant reason: It contains unidentified lines

Comments:

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Ray Plante

In general, I feel this data model is fairly complete (and fun to read). My comments are mainly about presentation. There several things in the definitions that were unclear or ambiguous that I could figure out by looking at the examples. Given that we don't want a standard defined by its examples, we just need put that clarity into the definitions.

To start with, here are some general comments:

  • Anywhere there is a formula, it's important to give a full explanation in one of the following forms:
    • a clause that defines each variable (e.g. "where B is the magnetic field"),
    • a reference to published literature where the formula is discussed, or
    • (preferably) both.
    There are places where this is done perfectly (2.1.5.3); other places seem to assume a standard knowledge (2.1.3.19). In this latter case, it may be distracting to spell out the entire formula, particularly when certain ones would be obvious to anyone whose taken a physics class (e.g. ''c'', ''h''), so simply giving a reference should be sufficient. The references (with Rybicki and Lightman, Drake, and Condon/Shortly) seem sufficient to do this. Such references will provide a means for working out ambiguities that we or users may discover later.

  • In several places, the document cites the commonly used quantum numbers, e.g. J, M, S, etc., but don't actually explicitly indicate that these are their meanings. I think it would be worthwhile to add a paragraph that defines the subsequent use of these quantum numbers in formulae. It's not necessary to give a full, from-first-principles explanation, but just enough context (and a reference!) to relate the variable names to their common usage as quantum numbers. I'm envisioning something like the following inserted after (or at the end of) the 3rd paragraph on p.5:

    In the definitions of attributes for these concepts, we have adopted the common convention for quantum numbers used by [ref]; that is, where [insert bulleted list from sect 2.1.6.3. with cross-references to appropriate definitions within sect. 6]. We note, however, that an instance of this model can explicitly define the use of these quantum number variables by linking them to their physical definitions (sect. 6).

    In the absence such a paragraph, one can merely provide an explicit explanation of a variable's use (e.g. "where J is the angular momentum quantum number (sect. 6.4.11.)")

  • In general when a concept definition invokes another concept defined in the model, an explicit cross-reference would be very helpful.

  • Be sure that every concept is explicit about the data type associated with the value that can be given; in particular,
    • indicate explicitly which concepts may be represented by a "PhyscialQuantity" (or equivalent future model). Some numeric values--namely quantum numbers should not be represented as a "PhysicalQuantity"; let's be explicity about this.
    • indicate which are represented by other object classes defined in the document and give the cross reference.

And now for the some specific notes...

-- RayPlante - 16 Sep 2009

 

RFC period comments from Working and Interest Groups

Applications

Data Access Layer

Data Modeling

Grid & Web Services

Resource Registry

Semantics

VO Event

VO Query Language

VOTable

Data Curation & Preservation

OGF Astro-RG

Question translated from SLAP RFC pages:

(4) Page 16 (SLAP document), expression of the quantum states; it is unclear to me how this document is going to express the quantum states for the inversion lines (e.g., NH3) or molecules with internal rotation (e.g., CH3OH, (CH3)2O).

-- MasatoshiOhishi

Theory

TCG


TCG Review: Working and Interest Groups

Note that the space for RFC comments from the working groups was intended to spur early review of the document. A formal approval is still requested from each of the WG and IG heads.

Applications

Data Access Layer

Data Modeling

Grid & Web Services

Resource Registry

Semantics

VO Event

VO Query Language

VOTable

Data Curation & Preservation

OGF Astro-RG

Theory

TCG


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