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HEIG Thematic Meeting on Obscore (online) - Tuesday Feb 11, 2025 @ 14:00 UTC


Attendees

  • Attendees : Bruno, Antara, Mark CD, Francesca, Francois, Ian, Jutta, Mark Kettenis, Mathieu, Mireille, Raffaele, Janet
  • Regrets :

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Meeting Agenda

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      • We discussed that core keywords to Obscore would go in the Obscore standard and managed by DM; that information on TAP service and how the registry is accessed will be directed to DAL; and that extensions unique to a waveband would be managed by the IGs in possibly an Endorsed Note. Also note that along with Radio & HE, there is work ongoing for a Time extension.
      • Open questions for the DAL: using extensions in parallel to the core ObsCore or incorporation of new keywords into ObsCore?
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      • We discussed that core keywords to Obscore would go in the Obscore standard and managed by DM; that information on the TAP service and how the registry is accessed will be directed to DAL; and that extensions unique to a waveband would be managed by the IGs in an Endorsed Note. Also note that along with Radio & HE, there is work ongoing for a Time extension.
      • Open questions for DAL: using extensions in parallel to the core ObsCore or incorporation of new keywords into ObsCore?
 
    • Review HE drafty Obscore table
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      • Ian stepped through the table he organized; he emphasized that queries made by scientists needed to be straight forward for them to use the VO and benefit from this work; vocabulary and ucd need to be also updated with the HE needs
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      • Ian stepped through the table he organized; he emphasized that queries made by scientists needed to be straight forward for them to use the VO and benefit from this work; Vocabulary and UCD need to be also updated with the HE needs
 
    • Review of Radio extension and overlap with keywords of interest to HE
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      • Bruno stepped through the Radio Draft document (#2 above) and highlighted the many overlaps with keywords of interest to TeV and HE data; he raised the question whether the keyword in the extension should not go into the core, generalising the definitions/descriptions; he moyed that the "HE ObsCore extension" might be larger than the "radio ObsCore extension".
      • Mark K reminds that they are several ObsCore inputs for one data product (PS from Bruno: which might be the case also for some TeV data providers)
      • We discussed about "GTI" (also known as Stable Time Intervals (STI)), for which the use cases differ depending on the data level. To be discussed in detail in a following meeting
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      • Bruno stepped through the Radio Draft document (#2 above) and highlighted the many overlaps with keywords of interest to TeV and HE data; he raised the question whether the keyword in the extension should not go into the core, generalising the definitions/descriptions; he noted that the "HE ObsCore extension" might be larger than the "radio ObsCore extension".
      • Mark K reminded us that there are several ObsCore inputs for one data product (PS from Bruno: which might be the case also for some TeV data providers)
      • We discussed about "GTI" (also known as Stable Time Intervals (STI)), for which the use cases differ depending on the data level. To be discussed in detail in a following meeting.
 
  • Next steps:
    • Compare the Radio extension(#2 above) to the HE working doc (#5 above). Does it add to the doc we have so far?
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    • Write up the HE working table (#5 above) to be more definitive so folks can review and comment. In the form of a Note. Identify Core Obscore keywords and HE extension keywords. Have this doc ready for the Baltimore Interop.
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    • Write up the HE working table (#5 above) to be more definitive so folks can review and comment. Write it up in the form of a Note. Identify Core Obscore keywords and HE extension keywords. Have this doc ready for the Baltimore Interop.
 
    • Prepare with DM/DAL and plan a way forward at the next Interop. Is it a session, plenary, or pre-Interop meeting day on this topic??
  • AOB
  • Next Mtg:

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