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Revision 92024-09-25 - JanetEvans

 
META TOPICPARENT name="HEGroup"

HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Aug 30, 2024 @ 13:00 UTC


Attendees

Actions

  • New
    • JE request a session at the Interop for the HEIG
    • HEIG members review the Old actions and continue to work on them
  • Old
Changed:
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    • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength) - ??
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    • Giuseppe Greco - writeup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength) - ??
 
    • Juta - use case for Neutrino's - ??
    • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2) - OPEN
    • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3) - OPEN
    • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4) - OPEN
    • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient) - OPEN
    • Mathieu (ALL see below) - Section 5 use case review - OPEN
    • Laurent - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - OPEN
    • Mathieu - Provenance section - ??
    • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2) - INCOMPLETE
Changed:
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      • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
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    • ALL - Put Obscore section together but don't be too specific - keep list as preliminary and candidates for discussion
 
    • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3 - NEEDS REVIEW
    • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink example - OPEN
    • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to - DONE
    • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1) - DONE
    • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2) - DONE
    • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group) - DONE
  • Very Old
Deleted:
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    • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

Meeting Agenda

  • (Meeting notes added to the agenda and appear in BOLD)

  • General Info
    • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17

  • Links to VO and HE Astrophysics Draft: (also linked from HE wiki page)
  • IVOA HEIG Note
    • MS reviewed actions on doc based on GitHub recorded 'actions'
      • HEIG group needs to review action list above to help JE map the actions recorded at meeting to GitHub 'actions'
    • We reviewed/discussed the overall Document approach.
      • We should start out broad and cover all High Energy data no matter how their data is captured, stored, and used scientifically (Gamma Rays, X-rays, Neutrinos, Gravitational Wave, etc.)
      • We should then discuss the specifics of various data formats and where there is overlap or differences in various data analysis threads.
      • The note should not go into details, but simply expose various topics of interest for an HE IG.
      • Given this big picture, the HE IG will search for common or distinct solutions to data formats that serve the group. As always, tasks will be prioritized based on interest and resources to work on a project.
      • We also have a number of areas of interest: Data formats (including response functions), Observation planning, VO Event.
    • We need to get the IVOA Note in shape to represent the collective view
      • it takes work from the lead author and support from the group to fulfill actions and make contributions within the context of the document goals.

  • Malta plans for session
    • We reviewed whether a plenary or session was our 'ask' for Malta and decided we would request a plenary.
    • FC (from the CSP) suggested to work with CSP on a session with High energy and TDAMM to show a science driver for this work.
    • JE put in a session request on the TCG planning page
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  UPDATE after the meeting :
  • There was a CSP meeting Thu 9/5, where there was more discussion
    • High Energy TDAMM Plenary outline ... let's start here and fine tune:
      • 4 Science presentation(s) covering Xray / Gamma ray/ Neutrino/Gravitational wave
      • Folding into the presentations 4 questions posed to the speaker on use of Alerts, Observation planning coordination, data discovery, data model in their science
      • Followed by a HEIG presentation with our 'ask' to the IVOA to become an IG. Tie this presentation to the Science talks, identify the HE Note and what it outlines, and highlight the topics above from the questions that the HE group will pursue in coordination with the TCG.
    • Organized potential speakers in CSP mtg based on HEIG membership and some folks group knew
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  • Next Mtg: Friday, Sep 27 @13:00 UTC

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HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Aug 30, 2024 @ 13:00 UTC

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Attendees

Actions

  • New
    • JE request a session at the Interop for the HEIG
    • HEIG members review the Old actions and continue to work on them
  • Old
    • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength) - ??
    • Juta - use case for Neutrino's - ??
    • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2) - OPEN
    • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3) - OPEN
    • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4) - OPEN
    • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient) - OPEN
    • Mathieu (ALL see below) - Section 5 use case review - OPEN
    • Laurent - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - OPEN
    • Mathieu - Provenance section - ??
    • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2) - INCOMPLETE
      • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
    • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3 - NEEDS REVIEW
    • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink example - OPEN
    • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to - DONE
    • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1) - DONE
    • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2) - DONE
    • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group) - DONE
  • Very Old
    • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

Meeting Agenda

Changed:
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  • (Meeting notes added to the agenda and appear in BOLD)
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  • (Meeting notes added to the agenda and appear in BOLD)

 
  • General Info
Changed:
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    • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17
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    • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17

 
Changed:
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  • IVOA HEIG Note
    • MS reviewed actions on doc based on GitHub recorded 'actions'
      • HEIG group needs to review action list above to help JE map the actions recorded at meeting to GitHub 'actions'
    • We reviewed/discussed the overall Document approach.
Changed:
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      • I believe it was generally agreed that we should start out broad and cover all High Energy data no matter how their data is captured, stored, and used scientifically (Gamma Rays, X-rays, Neutrinos, Gravitational Wave, etc.)
      • We should then discuss the specifics of various data formats and where there is overlap or differences in various data analysis threads. (Having event lists for example is only used in a subset of wavebands.
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      • We should start out broad and cover all High Energy data no matter how their data is captured, stored, and used scientifically (Gamma Rays, X-rays, Neutrinos, Gravitational Wave, etc.)
      • We should then discuss the specifics of various data formats and where there is overlap or differences in various data analysis threads.
Added:
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      • The note should not go into details, but simply expose various topics of interest for an HE IG.
 
      • Given this big picture, the HE IG will search for common or distinct solutions to data formats that serve the group. As always, tasks will be prioritized based on interest and resources to work on a project.
      • We also have a number of areas of interest: Data formats (including response functions), Observation planning, VO Event.
Changed:
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    • We really need to get the IVOA Note in shape to represent the collective view
      • it takes work from the lead author and support from the group to fulfill actions and make contributions within the context of the document goals.
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>
    • We need to get the IVOA Note in shape to represent the collective view
      • it takes work from the lead author and support from the group to fulfill actions and make contributions within the context of the document goals.

 
  • Malta plans for session
    • We reviewed whether a plenary or session was our 'ask' for Malta and decided we would request a plenary.
    • FC (from the CSP) suggested to work with CSP on a session with High energy and TDAMM to show a science driver for this work.
Deleted:
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    • There was a CSP meeting this morning (Thu, 9/5) where there was more discussion .
      • High Energy TDAMM Plenary outline ... let's start here and fine tune:
        • 4 Science presentation(s) covering Xray / Gamma ray/ Neutrino/Gravitational wave, folding into the presentations 4 question posed to the speaker on use of Alerts, Observation planning coordination, data discovery, data model in their science
        • Followed by a HEIG presentation with our 'ask' to the IVOA to become an IG. Tie this presentation to the Science talks, identify the HE Note and what it outlines, and highlight the topics above from the questions that the HE group will pursue in coordination with the TCG.
      • Organized potential speakers in CSP mtg based on HEIG membership and some folks group knew
 
    • JE put in a session request on the TCG planning page
Added:
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UPDATE after the meeting :

  • There was a CSP meeting Thu 9/5, where there was more discussion
    • High Energy TDAMM Plenary outline ... let's start here and fine tune:
      • 4 Science presentation(s) covering Xray / Gamma ray/ Neutrino/Gravitational wave
      • Folding into the presentations 4 questions posed to the speaker on use of Alerts, Observation planning coordination, data discovery, data model in their science
      • Followed by a HEIG presentation with our 'ask' to the IVOA to become an IG. Tie this presentation to the Science talks, identify the HE Note and what it outlines, and highlight the topics above from the questions that the HE group will pursue in coordination with the TCG.
    • Organized potential speakers in CSP mtg based on HEIG membership and some folks group knew
 
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  • Next Mtg: Friday, Sep 27 @13:00 UTC
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Revision 72024-09-05 - JanetEvans

 
META TOPICPARENT name="HEGroup"

HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Aug 30, 2024 @ 13:00 UTC

Attendees

Actions

  • New
    • JE request a session at the Interop for the HEIG
    • HEIG members review the Old actions and continue to work on them
  • Old
    • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength) - ??
    • Juta - use case for Neutrino's - ??
    • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2) - OPEN
    • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3) - OPEN
    • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4) - OPEN
    • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient) - OPEN
    • Mathieu (ALL see below) - Section 5 use case review - OPEN
    • Laurent - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - OPEN
Changed:
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    • Mathieu - Provenance section - DONE
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    • Mathieu - Provenance section - ??
 
    • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2) - INCOMPLETE
      • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
    • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3 - NEEDS REVIEW
    • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink example - OPEN
    • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to - DONE
    • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1) - DONE
    • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2) - DONE
    • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group) - DONE
Added:
>
>
  • Very Old
 
    • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

Meeting Agenda

  • (Meeting notes added to the agenda and appear in BOLD)
  • General Info
    • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17
  • Links to VO and HE Astrophysics Draft: (also linked from HE wiki page)
  • IVOA HEIG Note
    • MS reviewed actions on doc based on GitHub recorded 'actions'
      • HEIG group needs to review action list above to help JE map the actions recorded at meeting to GitHub 'actions'
    • We reviewed/discussed the overall Document approach.
      • I believe it was generally agreed that we should start out broad and cover all High Energy data no matter how their data is captured, stored, and used scientifically (Gamma Rays, X-rays, Neutrinos, Gravitational Wave, etc.)
      • We should then discuss the specifics of various data formats and where there is overlap or differences in various data analysis threads. (Having event lists for example is only used in a subset of wavebands.
      • Given this big picture, the HE IG will search for common or distinct solutions to data formats that serve the group. As always, tasks will be prioritized based on interest and resources to work on a project.
      • We also have a number of areas of interest: Data formats (including response functions), Observation planning, VO Event.
    • We really need to get the IVOA Note in shape to represent the collective view
      • it takes work from the lead author and support from the group to fulfill actions and make contributions within the context of the document goals.
  • Malta plans for session
Changed:
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    • We reviewed whether a plenary or session was out 'ask' for Malta and decided we would ask for a plenary.
>
>
    • We reviewed whether a plenary or session was our 'ask' for Malta and decided we would request a plenary.
 
    • FC (from the CSP) suggested to work with CSP on a session with High energy and TDAMM to show a science driver for this work.
Changed:
<
<
    • HEIG/TDAMM Plenary outline ... let's start here and fine tune. Need to extend invites soon. :
      • Science presentation(s) covering: Xray & Gamma ray (overview/science use cases)
      • Science presentation(s) covering Neutrino/Gravitational wave (overview/science use cases)
      • Science motivation - Joint with Time Domain focus
      • HEIG outline to request IG status in the IVOA
        • HEIG has interests in topics of IVOA - Analysis within the HE wavebands; multi-wavelength analysis, timing analysis, catalogs. Data formats (including response functions) not well represented.
>
>
    • There was a CSP meeting this morning (Thu, 9/5) where there was more discussion .
      • High Energy TDAMM Plenary outline ... let's start here and fine tune:
        • 4 Science presentation(s) covering Xray / Gamma ray/ Neutrino/Gravitational wave, folding into the presentations 4 question posed to the speaker on use of Alerts, Observation planning coordination, data discovery, data model in their science
        • Followed by a HEIG presentation with our 'ask' to the IVOA to become an IG. Tie this presentation to the Science talks, identify the HE Note and what it outlines, and highlight the topics above from the questions that the HE group will pursue in coordination with the TCG.
      • Organized potential speakers in CSP mtg based on HEIG membership and some folks group knew
    • JE put in a session request on the TCG planning page
Deleted:
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        • HEIG has interests in IVOA topics - Obscore, Observation planning, VO Event, Data models.
        • HEIG has interests to support projects and work with IVOA WG/IG to provide a wider understanding of HE astronomical data; work toward standards that include HE data formats (i.e., Data Cube/Event list/Responses/...).
    • JE will put in a session request on the TCG planning page
 

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Revision 62024-09-04 - JanetEvans

 
META TOPICPARENT name="HEGroup"

HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Aug 30, 2024 @ 13:00 UTC

Attendees

Actions

  • New
    • JE request a session at the Interop for the HEIG
    • HEIG members review the Old actions and continue to work on them
  • Old
    • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength) - ??
    • Juta - use case for Neutrino's - ??
    • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2) - OPEN
    • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3) - OPEN
    • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4) - OPEN
    • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient) - OPEN
    • Mathieu (ALL see below) - Section 5 use case review - OPEN
    • Laurent - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - OPEN
    • Mathieu - Provenance section - DONE
    • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2) - INCOMPLETE
      • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
    • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3 - NEEDS REVIEW
    • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink example - OPEN
    • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to - DONE
    • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1) - DONE
    • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2) - DONE
    • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group) - DONE
    • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

Meeting Agenda

  • (Meeting notes added to the agenda and appear in BOLD)
  • General Info
    • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17
  • Links to VO and HE Astrophysics Draft: (also linked from HE wiki page)
  • IVOA HEIG Note
    • MS reviewed actions on doc based on GitHub recorded 'actions'
      • HEIG group needs to review action list above to help JE map the actions recorded at meeting to GitHub 'actions'
    • We reviewed/discussed the overall Document approach.
      • I believe it was generally agreed that we should start out broad and cover all High Energy data no matter how their data is captured, stored, and used scientifically (Gamma Rays, X-rays, Neutrinos, Gravitational Wave, etc.)
      • We should then discuss the specifics of various data formats and where there is overlap or differences in various data analysis threads. (Having event lists for example is only used in a subset of wavebands.
      • Given this big picture, the HE IG will search for common or distinct solutions to data formats that serve the group. As always, tasks will be prioritized based on interest and resources to work on a project.
      • We also have a number of areas of interest: Data formats (including response functions), Observation planning, VO Event.
    • We really need to get the IVOA Note in shape to represent the collective view
      • it takes work from the lead author and support from the group to fulfill actions and make contributions within the context of the document goals.
  • Malta plans for session
    • We reviewed whether a plenary or session was out 'ask' for Malta and decided we would ask for a plenary.
    • FC (from the CSP) suggested to work with CSP on a session with High energy and TDAMM to show a science driver for this work.
Changed:
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    • One thought of an outline for the session ... let's start here and talk it out. Need to extend invites soon. :
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    • HEIG/TDAMM Plenary outline ... let's start here and fine tune. Need to extend invites soon. :
 
      • Science presentation(s) covering: Xray & Gamma ray (overview/science use cases)
      • Science presentation(s) covering Neutrino/Gravitational wave (overview/science use cases)
      • Science motivation - Joint with Time Domain focus
Changed:
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      • The HEIG pitch/outline for doing business/ask of the IVOA
        • Interest in topics of IVOA - Data formats (including response functions) - answer: Why are the data different??, Obscore, Observation planning, VO Event. Will coordinate efforts with DM, Timing, etc.
        • Will work internally and with other IVOA WG/IG to provide a wider understanding of astronomical data and work toward standards that include HE better when they exist, and pave new paths when they to not (i.e., Data Cube/Event list/Response).
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      • HEIG outline to request IG status in the IVOA
        • HEIG has interests in topics of IVOA - Analysis within the HE wavebands; multi-wavelength analysis, timing analysis, catalogs. Data formats (including response functions) not well represented.
        • HEIG has interests in IVOA topics - Obscore, Observation planning, VO Event, Data models.
Added:
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        • HEIG has interests to support projects and work with IVOA WG/IG to provide a wider understanding of HE astronomical data; work toward standards that include HE data formats (i.e., Data Cube/Event list/Responses/...).
 

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Revision 52024-09-04 - MathieuServillat

 
META TOPICPARENT name="HEGroup"

HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Aug 30, 2024 @ 13:00 UTC

Attendees

Actions

  • New
    • JE request a session at the Interop for the HEIG
Changed:
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    • HEIG members revuew the Old actions and continue to work them
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>
    • HEIG members review the Old actions and continue to work on them
 
  • Old
    • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength) - ??
    • Juta - use case for Neutrino's - ??
    • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2) - OPEN
    • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3) - OPEN
    • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4) - OPEN
    • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient) - OPEN
Changed:
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    • Mathieu - Section 5 use case review - OPEN
    • Laurant - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - OPEN
    • Mathieu - Provenance section - INCOMPLETE
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    • Mathieu (ALL see below) - Section 5 use case review - OPEN
    • Laurent - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - OPEN
    • Mathieu - Provenance section - DONE
 
    • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2) - INCOMPLETE
      • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
    • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3 - NEEDS REVIEW
    • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink example - OPEN
    • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to - DONE
    • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1) - DONE
    • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2) - DONE
    • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group) - DONE
    • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

Meeting Agenda

  • (Meeting notes added to the agenda and appear in BOLD)
  • General Info
    • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17
  • Links to VO and HE Astrophysics Draft: (also linked from HE wiki page)
  • IVOA HEIG Note
    • MS reviewed actions on doc based on GitHub recorded 'actions'
      • HEIG group needs to review action list above to help JE map the actions recorded at meeting to GitHub 'actions'
Changed:
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    • We reviewed/discussed the overall Document approach. I believe it was generally agreed that we should start out broad and cover all High Energy data no matter how their data is captured, stored, and used scientifically (Gamma Rays, X-rays, Neutrinos, Gravitational Wave, etc.) We should then discuss the specifics of various data formats and where there is overlap or differences in various data analysis threads. (Having event lists for example is only used in a subset of wavebands. Given this big picture, the HE IG will search for common or distinct solutions to data formats that serve the group. As always, tasks will be priroitized based on interest and resources to work on a project. We also have a number of areas of interest: Data formats (including response functions), Observation planning, VO Event.
    • We really need to get the IVOA Note in shape to represent the collective view ... it takes work from the lead author and support from the group to fulfill actions and make contributions within the context of the document goals.
>
>
    • We reviewed/discussed the overall Document approach.
      • I believe it was generally agreed that we should start out broad and cover all High Energy data no matter how their data is captured, stored, and used scientifically (Gamma Rays, X-rays, Neutrinos, Gravitational Wave, etc.)
Added:
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      • We should then discuss the specifics of various data formats and where there is overlap or differences in various data analysis threads. (Having event lists for example is only used in a subset of wavebands.
      • Given this big picture, the HE IG will search for common or distinct solutions to data formats that serve the group. As always, tasks will be prioritized based on interest and resources to work on a project.
      • We also have a number of areas of interest: Data formats (including response functions), Observation planning, VO Event.
    • We really need to get the IVOA Note in shape to represent the collective view
      • it takes work from the lead author and support from the group to fulfill actions and make contributions within the context of the document goals.
 
  • Malta plans for session
    • We reviewed whether a plenary or session was out 'ask' for Malta and decided we would ask for a plenary.
    • FC (from the CSP) suggested to work with CSP on a session with High energy and TDAMM to show a science driver for this work.
    • One thought of an outline for the session ... let's start here and talk it out. Need to extend invites soon. :
      • Science presentation(s) covering: Xray & Gamma ray (overview/science use cases)
Changed:
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      • Science presntation(s) covering Neutrino/Gravitational wave (overview/science use cases)
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      • Science presentation(s) covering Neutrino/Gravitational wave (overview/science use cases)
 

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HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Aug 30, 2024 @ 13:00 UTC

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  • Regrets:
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Actions

  • New
Changed:
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    • IVOA HEIG Note:
      • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; aldo 4.5 for Multi-wavelength)
      • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to
      • Juta - use case for Neutrino's
      • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2)
      • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3)
      • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1)
      • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2)
      • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4)
      • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group)
      • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient)
      • Mathieu - Section 5 use case review
      • Laurant - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description (Is it complete?)
      • Mathieu - Provenance section
      • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2)
        • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
      • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3
      • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink eample
      • Everyone ... Give the doc a good read and comment!!!!
  • OLD
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    • HEIG members revuew the Old actions and continue to work them
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    • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength) - ??
    • Juta - use case for Neutrino's - ??
    • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2) - OPEN
    • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3) - OPEN
    • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4) - OPEN
    • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient) - OPEN
    • Mathieu - Section 5 use case review - OPEN
    • Laurant - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - OPEN
    • Mathieu - Provenance section - INCOMPLETE
    • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2) - INCOMPLETE
      • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
    • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3 - NEEDS REVIEW
    • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink example - OPEN
    • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to - DONE
    • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1) - DONE
    • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2) - DONE
    • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group) - DONE
 
    • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING
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  • General Info
    • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17
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    • We reviewed/discussed the overall Document approach. I believe it was generally agreed that we should start out broad and cover all High Energy data no matter how their data is captured, stored, and used scientifically (Gamma Rays, X-rays, Neutrinos, Gravitational Wave, etc.) We should then discuss the specifics of various data formats and where there is overlap or differences in various data analysis threads. (Having event lists for example is only used in a subset of wavebands. Given this big picture, the HE IG will search for common or distinct solutions to data formats that serve the group. As always, tasks will be priroitized based on interest and resources to work on a project. We also have a number of areas of interest: Data formats (including response functions), Observation planning, VO Event.
    • We really need to get the IVOA Note in shape to represent the collective view ... it takes work from the lead author and support from the group to fulfill actions and make contributions within the context of the document goals.
 
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    • FC (from the CSP) suggested to work with CSP on a session with High energy and TDAMM to show a science driver for this work.
    • One thought of an outline for the session ... let's start here and talk it out. Need to extend invites soon. :
      • Science presentation(s) covering: Xray & Gamma ray (overview/science use cases)
      • Science presntation(s) covering Neutrino/Gravitational wave (overview/science use cases)
      • Science motivation - Joint with Time Domain focus
      • The HEIG pitch/outline for doing business/ask of the IVOA
        • Interest in topics of IVOA - Data formats (including response functions) - answer: Why are the data different??, Obscore, Observation planning, VO Event. Will coordinate efforts with DM, Timing, etc.
        • Will work internally and with other IVOA WG/IG to provide a wider understanding of astronomical data and work toward standards that include HE better when they exist, and pave new paths when they to not (i.e., Data Cube/Event list/Response).
    • JE will put in a session request on the TCG planning page
 
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Attendees

  • Attendees:
  • Regrets:

Actions

  • New
    • IVOA HEIG Note:
      • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; aldo 4.5 for Multi-wavelength)
      • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to
      • Juta - use case for Neutrino's
      • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2)
      • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3)
      • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1)
      • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2)
      • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4)
      • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group)
      • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient)
      • Mathieu - Section 5 use case review
      • Laurant - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description (Is it complete?)
      • Mathieu - Provenance section
      • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2)
        • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
      • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3
      • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink eample
      • Everyone ... Give the doc a good read and comment!!!!
  • OLD
    • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

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  • Regrets:

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  • Regrets:

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  • New
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      • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; aldo 4.5 for Multi-wavelength)
      • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to
      • Juta - use case for Neutrino's
      • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2)
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      • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; aldo 4.5 for Multi-wavelength)
      • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to
      • Juta - use case for Neutrino's
      • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2)
 
      • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3)
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      • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1)
      • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2)
      • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4)
      • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group)
      • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient)
      • Mathieu - Section 5 use case review
      • Laurant - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description (Is it complete?)
      • Mathieu - Provenance section
      • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2)
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      • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1)
      • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2)
      • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4)
      • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group)
      • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient)
      • Mathieu - Section 5 use case review
      • Laurant - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description (Is it complete?)
      • Mathieu - Provenance section
      • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2)
 
        • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
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      • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3
      • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink eample
      • Everyone ... Give the doc a good read and comment!!!!
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      • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3
      • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink eample
      • Everyone ... Give the doc a good read and comment!!!!
 
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    • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

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    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

Meeting Agenda

  • IVOA Doc review/actions ...
 
    • General Info
      • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17
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HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Aug 30, 2024 @ 13:00 UTC

Attendees

  • Attendees:
  • Regrets:

Actions

  • New
    • IVOA HEIG Note:
      • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; aldo 4.5 for Multi-wavelength)
      • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to
      • Juta - use case for Neutrino's
      • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2)
      • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3)
      • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1)
      • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2)
      • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4)
      • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group)
      • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient)
      • Mathieu - Section 5 use case review
      • Laurant - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description (Is it complete?)
      • Mathieu - Provenance section
      • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2)
        • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
      • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3
      • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink eample
      • Everyone ... Give the doc a good read and comment!!!!
  • OLD
    • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
    • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

Meeting Agenda

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