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Revision 192025-06-17 - RenaudSavalle

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

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  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state pdf
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
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Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
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Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
 
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		pdf
  Open Discussion 

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Revision 182025-06-06 - GregoryMantelet

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Changed:
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Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
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Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
 
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		pdf
  Open Discussion
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Revision 172025-06-05 - MarkCresitelloDittmar

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state pdf
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions pptx pdf
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
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- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
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Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

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Revision 162025-06-04 - MathieuServillat

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

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Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

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Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state pdf
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions pptx pdf
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

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Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Revision 152025-06-04 - PatrickDowler

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state pdf
Changed:
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Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
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Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
 
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions pptx pdf
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Revision 142025-06-04 - MarkCresitelloDittmar

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Changed:
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Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
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Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state pdf
 
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions pptx pdf
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions pptx pdf
Changed:
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Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
>
>
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions pdf
 
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Changed:
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>		Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1
 
Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Changed:
<
<
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
>
>
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
 
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Changed:
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>		Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2
 
Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Changed:
<
<
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
>
>
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions pptx pdf
 
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Changed:
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>		Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3
 
Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Revision 112025-06-03 - PatrickDowler

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Revision 102025-06-03 - MarkCresitelloDittmar

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Revision 92025-06-03 - PatrickDowler

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
Changed:
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Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 		 
>
>
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

pdf
 
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Revision 82025-06-03 - LaurentMichel

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Changed:
<
<
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		 
>
>
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		pdf
 
Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 		 
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Revision 72025-06-02 - MarkCresitelloDittmar

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

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  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
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Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM1

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		 
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Pat Dowler 15' + 3' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 		 
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Pat Dowler 25' + 5' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 		 
 
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

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Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		 
Pat Dowler 15' + 3' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 		 
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Added:
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>		 Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM2
 
Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Added:
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>		 Live Notes: https://yopad.eu/p/IVOA_June25_DM3
 
Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		 
Pat Dowler 15' + 3' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 		 
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
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Renaud Savalle 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
 
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

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  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1: Updates

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		 
Pat Dowler 15' + 3' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 		 
       

DM Session 2: ObsCore and Extensions:

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
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Gregory Mantelet 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
 
? 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

DM session 3: Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

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Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		 
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Pat Dowler 15' + 3' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 
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Pat Dowler 15' + 3' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 		 
 
       

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Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
  Open Discussion - roadmap planning

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Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion 
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Speaker Time Title Material
Changed:
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Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 
Pat Dowler 15' + 3' CAOM-2.5

Update on model and implementation status

 
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Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 		 
Pat Dowler 15' + 3' CAOM-2.5

This is a status update on the WD-CAOM-2.5 standard document itself and some feedback on some VO-DML
related issues. We will also provide some details on the status of updating OpenCADC implementations of the
model and services to the draft version.

Note: The version in the IVOA doc repo may be be out-of-date - check the preview at https://github.com/opencadc/CAOM

 
 
       

ObsCore and Extensions:

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Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
 
Speaker Time Title Material
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Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
 
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
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? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
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Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

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Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
 
Speaker Time Title Material
Changed:
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Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 
Open Discussion
>
>
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 		 
  Open Discussion
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META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpJune2025"

Data Model Working Group Sessions: June 2025, College Park, Maryland, USA

[ back to main programme page]

  Date Local (EDT) UTC Victoria (PDT) Paris (CEST) Beijing (CST) Sydney (AEST)
Session 1 June 3 11:00 15:00 08:00 17:00 23:00 01:00 +1d
Session 2 June 4 14:00 18:00 11:00 20:00 02:00 +1d 04:00 +1d
Session 3 June 5 16:00 20:00 13:00 22:00 04:00 +1d 06:00 +1d

DM Session 1:

Tuesday June 3 @11:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Laurent Michel 15' + 3' Mango last step

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-eneric O-objects, is to add an
upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended,
complex quantities to be reconstructed from multiple column values and properties to be linked
together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I値l give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

 
Pat Dowler 15' + 3' CAOM-2.5

Update on model and implementation status

 
       

ObsCore and Extensions:

Wednesday June 4 @ 14:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Introductory summary of the project and current state  
Pat Dowler 15' Data Model - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Data Access Layer - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Registry - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
? 10' Semantics - Assessment, recommendations, questions  
Open Discussion - roadmap planning

Data Models: modularity, levels, endorsement:

Thursday June 5 @ 16:00 EDT: Room 2309
Speaker Time Title Material
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar 15' Setting the stage

- What is the end goal of the IVOA?
- Atomic building block models, or independent?
- Serving different clients at their level
- Ramifications on TCG and D&S process

 
Open Discussion 

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