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Participants

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DickShaw
PaulHarrison
ChristopheArviset
WilliamOMullane
TamasBudavari
AndreSchaaff
AlbertoAccomazzi
AlasdairAllan
MarcoLeoni
RayPlante
KevinBenson
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MariaNieto
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AlessandraVolpato
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RamonWilliamson
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PierreDidelon
MatthewGraham
GuyRixon
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David Morris
 

Timetable

Tuesday May 25, 2004

Time Work Pkg Content Leader
08:30 Introduction Clarify work packages GuyRixon
08:35 Standard interfaces Progress v0.1 proposal WilliamOMullane
09:20 Asynchronous activities Discuss recent proposal GuyRixon

Friday May 28, 2004

Time Work Pkg Content Leader
08:30 Further thoughts on Tuesday discussions   GuyRixon
09:00 SOAP interoperability Discuss use of WS-I profile AndreSchaaff
09:30 Access control Discuss recent proposal GuyRixon
10:15 AOB   GuyRixon


Materials and notes from the work group and plenary sessions

Asynchronicity

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  • This proposal to be developed further.
  • Use of WS-RF is acceptable.
  • WS-BaseNotification should be optional.

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  • Does WS-BaseNotification do reliable messaging? Does it need to?
  • Need some WS-RF prototypes.

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  • Find out if WS-BaseNotification has reliable-messaging semantics (GuyRixon).
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VObs Support Interfaces (originally called "Standard interfaces")

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  • Renamed from "standard interfaces" to "VObs support interfaces".
  • All three port-types to be specified.
  • getRegistration (was getMetadata, now renamed) to be optional.
  • getAvailability (a.k.a. "heartbeat") to be mandatory.
  • harvestLog to be optional.
  • Progress to concrete design (WSDL, XSD, prototypes) ASAP.

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  • May need to apply access control to harvestLog
  • Unclear if registries will actually use getRegistration.
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Access control

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  • A SSO system based on digital signature and WS-Security is basically suitable for the IVO.
  • Use of community services (run by real-world, astronomical communities) is a good way to manage users.
  • Split the current proposal into two IVOA documents: (1) wire protocol; (2) Public Key Infrastructure/community services.
  • Only community services for authentication should be tackled now. Community authorization is separate and might not be required.
  • We need to understand the technology better before deploying it.

Issues

  • Is WS-Security compatible with "Shibboleth"?
  • Is WS-Security compatible with grid services/portals?
  • Will service providers acccept our SSO arrangements?
  • Can we handle 100+ communities? Do we expect that many?
  • How do we prevent spoofing of community services (allows stealing of passwords)?
  • How do we delegate work from one service to another?

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  • Check compatibility of WS-Security with other systems (GuyRixon)
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SOAP interoperability

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  • We adopt WS-I conformance as a goal, subject to support from our web-service toolkits.

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  • Collect existing conformance-reports for web-service toolkits (AndreSchaaff).
  • Arrange testing programmes for implementations of IVOA services (AndreSchaaff)
  • Collect and publish conformance reports donated by IVOA members (AndreSchaaff).

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  • Axis v1.1 may be too non-conformant to use; might need to adopt Axis v1.2 beta before its final release.

Distributed storage

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  • This is now a work package for GWS-WG.
  • Aim for a common, standard facade to existing storage systems (MyDB, MySpace, SRB, etc.)

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