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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

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ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: PDF _( live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)_

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3' pdf  
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3' pdf  
François Bonnarel Transition from SIA to DAP and SODA 1.1 12'+3' pdf The talk insists on a few strong drivers for evolution of these standards and proposes a roadmap
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL

DataLink

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Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

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DAL Sessions Schedule - IVOA May 2023 Interoperability Meeting

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory
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ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

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DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
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Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3' dal-WD-DALI-1.2.pdf  
François Bonnarel Transition from SIA to DAP and SODA 1.1 12'+3' SIA-DAPSODA.pdf The talk insists on a few strong drivers for evolution of these standards and proposes a roadmap
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

DataLink

Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
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Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3' pdf  
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3' pdf  
François Bonnarel Transition from SIA to DAP and SODA 1.1 12'+3' pdf The talk insists on a few strong drivers for evolution of these standards and proposes a roadmap
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL

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 Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James
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DAL Sessions Schedule - IVOA May 2023 Interoperability Meeting

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3' dal-WD-DALI-1.2.pdf  
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Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Changed:
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Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel Transition from SIA to DAP and SODA 1.1 12'+3' pdf The talk insists on a few string drivers for evolution of these standards and proposes a roadmap
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Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3' dal-WD-DALI-1.2.pdf  
François Bonnarel Transition from SIA to DAP and SODA 1.1 12'+3' SIA-DAPSODA.pdf The talk insists on a few string drivers for evolution of these standards and proposes a roadmap
 
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

 		Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
Changed:
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François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
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François Bonnarel Transition from SIA to DAP and SODA 1.1 12'+3' pdf The talk insists on a few string drivers for evolution of these standards and proposes a roadmap
 
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

 		Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

 		Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

 		Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
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Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' skoda-echelle.pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
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Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
 
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

 		Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' skoda-echelle.pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

 		Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
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Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
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Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3' skoda-echelle.pdf Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
 
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
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Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
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Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
 
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Discussion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. Should UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

 		Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Changed:
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Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
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Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
 
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory
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Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

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DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

 		Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James
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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
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Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14' pdf CADC/CANFAR has developed extensions to TAP-1.1 to support users and projects creating and managing their own tables in a TAP service. There is interest from several other community members to adopt this and it seems like a useful set of optional features to be specified in TAP-next aka TAP-1. There are open questions and some rough spots that need work so this talk is seeking "agreement in principle".
 
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Disucssion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. SHould UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Plenary backstage area

Disucssion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. SHould UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

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  Disucssion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. SHould UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Location: Room 216

Disucssion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. SHould UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Location: Plenary room

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
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Conesearch splinter 9 May 10:30     9 May 12:30    
 
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

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Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Added:
>
>		Location: Room 216
 Disucssion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. SHould UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Added:
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>		 Location: Plenary room
 
Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

 		Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Changed:
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Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14   ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
>
>
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14 pdf ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
 Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Disucssion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. SHould UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14   ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Time: Tuesday 9 May 12:30 CEST [lunchtime session]

Disucssion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. SHould UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Changed:
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Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3'   Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'   Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
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Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3' pdf Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'

ADQL.pdf

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
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Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3'   STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
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Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3' pdf STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
 
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14   ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

ConeSearch Splinter

Changed:
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  Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3'   Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'   Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3'   STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14   ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Disucssion on next steps for ConeSearch - planning a small update before the big step to add time. SHould UCDs be changed to v1.1 in the update?

Note: This session may not be on zoom - if you would like it to be, please contact James or Grégory.

 

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3'   Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'   Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3'   STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Changed:
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Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3'   The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
>
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Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3' pdf The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
 
Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14   ADQL-2.1 is currently under RFC and will hopefully become a REC in some weeks. So, it is now the time to prepare the next version. Some features were already proposed for ADQL-2.1 and unfortunately postponed. So, let's talk about them, but also share any other ideas for next version of ADQL. This talk will start with a brief listing of already known propositions and then will be completely open to discussion.
Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3'   Simbad has always provided a Cone Search service following the SCS-1.0 standard. However, this service became a bit oldish, especially in term of performances. New features are also required by some users. So, recently a new implementation of the Simbad's Cone Search is online with a different technology and new features. It also gives the occasion to make a step forward Cone Search 1.1 by following some modifications already listed in the last Working Draft and by introducing few other desired features.
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'   Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3'   STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3'   The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
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 Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
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Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'   Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
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DAL 1 9 May 11:00 9 May 04:00 9 May 07:00 9 May 13:00 9 May 19:00 9 May 21:00
DAL 2 11 May 16:00 11 May 09:00 11 May 12:00 11 May 18:00 12 May 00:00 12 May 02:00
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DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 10:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00
 

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
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Joshua Fraustro Python TAP implementation at MAST: Lessons Learned 12'+3'   STScI will be launching its overhauled TAP service rewritten as a Python-based microservice this summer.

We’ll cover the challenges, quirks, and lessons learned implementing a set of standards that continue to evolve while attempting to maintain years of client compatibility.
Patrick Dowler TAP-next: user-managed persistent tables 15'+14'    
Tamara Civera ADQL vector functions implementation in the Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ) 12'+3'   The Observatorio Astrofísico de Javalambre (OAJ, Teruel, Spain) is carrying out two large area multiband photometric sky surveys, J-PLUS (Cenarro et al. 2019) and J-PAS (Bonoli et al. 2021), covering the entire optical spectrum using narrow and broad band filters. To publish these surveys data, the CEFCA Catalogues portal (archive.cefca.es) has been implemented, offering web user interface services as well as VO services like SIAP, SCS, TAP and catalogue and images HIPS. Surveys data includes the catalogues of the sources detected in the images with the photometry for each object in the different bands measured using different methods. All this information is stored in tables containing massive amounts of vectors.

In this contribution we present our implementation of some ADQL vector functions, and a proposal to add to ADQL a new concept called "Enumerations" which can be used as constants in queries and can make the access to the data of those vectors easier for the user.
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Grégory Mantelet ADQL-next 15+14    
 Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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Petr Skoda Echelle spectra and the ways toward their VO interoperability 12'+3'   Echelle spectrograph is one of the most precise astronomical instruments delivering the highest spectral resolution and widest spectral range together. Currently, it is the crucial instrument for exoplanet research capable of delivering radial velocity precision of the order of several meters per second. This is unfortunately achieved at the expense of extremely complicated reduction procedures resulting in a zoo of custom storage formats requiring individual programmatic access to achieve the maximum precision. As there is no generally accepted format for interoperability of echelle spectra, the providers convert the results in a format of 1D vector as in single-order spectra leading to the severe degradation of its potential. As the future exoplanet missions as e.g., PLATO are inherently dependent on a multitude of different ground-based observatories equipped with echelle spectrographs, there is a great challenge for the IVOA to develop the proper interoperable data format and access patterns (supported by massive queries and server-side processing). We will give an overview of the problems in echelle spectroscopy and suggest possible ways for an IVOA standard.
Margarida Castro Neves LineTAP implementation in SPLAT-VO 12'+3'    
Patrick Dowler DALI 12'+3'    
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François Bonnarel SIA2/DAP + SODA 12'+3'    
Grégory Mantelet Simbad's Cone Search implementation 12'+3'    
Various DAL RFC Overview 12'+3'   Lightning talks on each RFC currently open
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DAL Sessions Schedule - IVOA May 2023 Interoperability Meeting

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
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DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 09:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00
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DAL 1 9 May 11:00 9 May 04:00 9 May 07:00 9 May 13:00 9 May 19:00 9 May 21:00
DAL 2 11 May 16:00 11 May 09:00 11 May 12:00 11 May 18:00 12 May 00:00 12 May 02:00
 

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
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Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
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Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

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META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpMay2023"

DAL Sessions Schedule - IVOA May 2023 Interoperability Meeting

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Schedule Summary
Session DateTime UTC UTC-07:00 UTC-04:00 UTC+02:00 UTC+08:00 UTC+10:00
Victoria BC/Pasadena Washington DC Bologna Perth/Beijing Canberra
DAL 1 9 May 09:00 9 May 02:00 9 May 05:00 9 May 11:00 9 May 17:00 9 May 19:00
DAL 2 11 May 14:00 11 May 07:00 11 May 09:00 11 May 16:00 11 May 22:00 12 May 00:00

Notes and session video recording are linked below each session schedule table.

DAL 1

Time: Tuesday 9 May 11:00 CEST [session #6]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
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Moderator: James, Notetaker: Grégory

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

DAL 2

Time: Thursday 11 May 16:00 CEST [session #16]

Speaker Title Time Material Abstract
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Moderator: Grégory, Notetaker: James

notes: ( link to live notes, should expire around end of June 2023)

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