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META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpNov2024"

Data Model Working Group : November 2024

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Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

pdf 15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

pdf 15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

pdf 15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

pdf 15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

pdf 15'+3'

Applications/Data Model Session 2: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 16:00-17:30; Room 103
Speaker Title Materials Time
Applications Segment 60'
  see Apps schedule    
DataModel Segment
Pat Dowler CAOM - integration status and discussion

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META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpNov2024"

Data Model Working Group : November 2024

back to main programme page

Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

pdf 15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

pdf 15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

pdf 15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

pdf 15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

pdf 15'+3'

Applications/Data Model Session 2: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 16:00-17:30; Room 103
Speaker Title Materials Time
Applications Segment 60'
  see Apps schedule    
DataModel Segment
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Revision 162024-11-16 - JanetEvans

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpNov2024"

Data Model Working Group : November 2024

back to main programme page

Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

pdf 15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

pdf 15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

pdf 15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

pdf 15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

pdf 15'+3'

Applications/Data Model Session 2: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 16:00-17:30; Room 103
Speaker Title Materials Time
Applications Segment 60'
  see Apps schedule    
DataModel Segment
Pat Dowler CAOM - integration status and discussion

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Revision 152024-11-16 - BrunoKhelifi

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpNov2024"

Data Model Working Group : November 2024

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Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
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Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

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Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

pdf 15'+3'
 
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

pdf 15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

pdf 15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

pdf 15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

pdf 15'+3'

Applications/Data Model Session 2: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 16:00-17:30; Room 103
Speaker Title Materials Time
Applications Segment 60'
  see Apps schedule    
DataModel Segment
Pat Dowler CAOM - integration status and discussion

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Revision 142024-11-16 - LaurentMichel

 
META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpNov2024"

Data Model Working Group : November 2024

back to main programme page

Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

pdf 15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

pdf 15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

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Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

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Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

pdf 15'+3'
 
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

pdf 15'+3'

Applications/Data Model Session 2: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 16:00-17:30; Room 103
Speaker Title Materials Time
Applications Segment 60'
  see Apps schedule    
DataModel Segment
Pat Dowler CAOM - integration status and discussion

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Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

BKhelifi_VHEDM_v1_compressed.pdf 15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

  15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

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Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

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Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

pdf 15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

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Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

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As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

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Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

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Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

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VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

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Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

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Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

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Pat Dowler CAOM - integration status and discussion

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Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

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Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

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Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

  15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

  15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

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Pat Dowler CAOM - integration status and discussion

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Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

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The very-high-energy gamma-ray astrophysics (above few tens of GeV up to few hundreds of TeV) is showing the emergence of observatories that will provide proposal-driven observations, open data and open science analysis tools. The largest observatory of such type is the Cherenkov Telescope Array Observatory (CTAO) that is currently under construction. In this context of opening of the VHE astrophysics, the FAIRisation of the data and an efficient data dissemination using VO technologies are necessary to allow multi-wavelength and multi-messenger analyses. The presentation will present the status of the data models of the VHE data products, in regard with the current IVOA data models and model drafts

  15'+3'
 
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

  15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

  15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

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Applications Segment 60'
  see Apps schedule    
DataModel Segment
Pat Dowler CAOM - integration status and discussion

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Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

  15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

  15'+3'
Paul Harrison

VO-DML 1.1 candidates

The VO-DML tooling has been extended to include robust Java and Python code generation that enables XML and JSON serialization as well as ORM to databases for arbitrary data models (first reported on in the Nov 2021 Interop, with ongoing progress reported subsequently). This work has highlighed some areas where the VO-DML standard should be clarified, as well as some ideas for extensions to the standard. These ideas have mainly been managed as GitHub issues so far, and this talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the VO-DML 1.1 standardization process. The suggestions so far will be summarized as well as the progress on actually updating the standard document.

  15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

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Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Bruno Khelifi Data Model for VHE gamma-ray data and relations with IVOA standards

  15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

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  15'+3'
 
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

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Pat Dowler CAOM - integration status and discussion

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Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

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After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

  15'+3'
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Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates

  15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

  15'+3'
 
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Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

  15'+3'
 
Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates   15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
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Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency this content.

  15'+3'
>
>
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency of this content.

  15'+3'
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Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

  15'+3'
Bruno Khelifi talk on data formats for the High Energy domain (TBR)   15'+3'
 
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META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpNov2024"

Data Model Working Group : November 2024

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DRAFT Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Changed:
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Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates   15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency this content.

  15'+3'
>
>
Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates   15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency this content.

  15'+3'
 
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

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META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpNov2024"

Data Model Working Group : November 2024

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DRAFT Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Changed:
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Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates   15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

abstract TBD

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency this content.

  15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

  15'+3'
>
>
Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates   15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

After being delayed due to the MIVOT recommendation process, the MANGO data model is now a VO working draft.
The purpose of MANGO, which stands for MO-del for AN-notating G-enericO-objects, is to add an upper level of description to the tabular data of query responses. It allows metadata to be extended, complex quantities to be reconstructed from multipl column values and properties to be linked together. It also allows to specify the origin of the data.
I'll give an overview of the model and the tools available to exercise it.
This talk is an invitation for people to contribute to the REC process.

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency this content.

  15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

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Bruno K. talk on data formats for the High Energy domain (TBR)   15'+3'
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Speaker Title Materials Time
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META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpNov2024"

Data Model Working Group : November 2024

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DRAFT Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Changed:
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Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates    
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

abstract TBD

   
Open (HEIG slot?)      
Open (HEIG slot?)      
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

abstract TBD

   
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Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates   15'+3'
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

abstract TBD

  15'+3'
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

As the IVOA Data Model landscape becomes fuller, we are introducing models which serve overlap in domain space with other models, but are represented at a level appropriate for their target usage. For example, CAOM for archives overlaps with content in Dataset, Characterisation, Cube, etc which are more data product oriented. MANGO introduces an EpochPosition which consolidates elements from the Coordinates model into a compact object suitable for application workflow. This talk is an update on an effort to define a mechanism to formally map the relation between models with overlapping content. The goal is to minimize the effort needed to ensure the consistency this content.

  15'+3'
Ian Evans An X-ray Astrophysicist Looks at ObsCore

Data discovery in the Virtual Observatory is supported by the ObsCore data model, which identifies key observation metadata that can be queried to search for data products of interest to the end user. I review the current ObsCore documents and definitions from the perspective of an X-ray astrophysicist who wants to use ObsCore to support data discovery of the scientifically rich Chandra X-ray Observatory data archive and specifically the numerous Chandra Source Catalog data products. I discuss which ObsCore components appear to work well for high-energy astrophysics data, what could be improved, and what appears to be missing.

  15'+3'
Bruno K. talk on data formats for the High Energy domain (TBR)   15'+3'
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Data Model Working Group : November 2024

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DRAFT Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
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Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates?    
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

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Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates    
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

abstract TBD

   
 
Open (HEIG slot?)      
Open (HEIG slot?)      
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Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

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META TOPICPARENT name="InterOpNov2024"

Data Model Working Group : November 2024

* back to main programme page]*

DRAFT Schedule

Data Model Session 1: Saturday November 16, 2024 @ 11:00-12:30; Room Aula Magna
Speaker Title Materials Time
Paul Harrison VO-DML 1.1 candidates?    
Laurent Michel MANGO model updates

abstract TBD

   
Open (HEIG slot?)      
Open (HEIG slot?)      
Mark Cresitello-Dittmar Follow-up from Sydney Joint session

abstract TBD

   

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