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META TOPICPARENT name="IvoaRadio"

Radio Astronomy Interest Group

Fourth Virtual Meeting 2022, March 7th/8th via zoom

Telecon Agenda:

  • LMT, Peter Teuben
  • GBT, Thomas Chamberlin/
  • Parkes, James Dempsey
  • Italian radioastronomy archive, Alessandra Zanichelli
  • FAST data, Zheng Zheng

Minutes

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LMT
 
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Peter Teuben:
 
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50 m dish 1/3 mm waveband many instruments : so spectra, 2D images, 3D spectral line cubes
 
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raw data , calibrated data (netCDF or SDFITS)
 
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LMT

Peter Teuben:

 Obscore for LMT
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Make obscore tables for L1-L2 data and above (calibrated spectra, cubes, mosaics, ADMIT products).Host on dataverse
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Make obscore tables for Level1-Level2 data and above (calibrated spectra, cubes, mosaics, ADMIT products).Hosted on dataverse (By the way : how does that fit for TAP services?)
  Discussion: questions about units for resolution (arcsec always we think, but need to check ALMA), frequency support (multiple spw per observation). A plan could be same obsid different obs_publisher_did for each spectral window

GBO
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  GBO data will be stored at new GBO data center and served through the NRAO archive access tool (AAT) (no VO yet for the AAT, is in the long-term plan).
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Discussion: best way to ensure VO compatibility - make sure ObsCore information is present (can always write a mapping). Severin suggests start with a TAP service, the TAP layer can do the translation between observatory metadata and obscore.
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up to 1 peta byte of data. PSRFITS and SDFITS (uncalibrated)
 
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access through astroquery

Discussion: Databases : DataVerse ? -> Postgresql

best way to ensure VO compatibility - make sure ObsCore information is present (can always write a mapping). Severin suggests start with a TAP service, the TAP layer can do the translation between observatory metadata and obscore (crosswalk).

 
Parkes
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James Dempsey described the current state of VO services from Australian radio projects - will send specs for CASDA VO services that can be placed on the IVOA RIG wiki.
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James Dempsey described the current state of VO services from Australian radio projects - presents specs for CASDA VO services that can be placed on the IVOA RIG wiki (SDHF format).
 
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This is it : https://bitbucket.csiro.au/projects/CPDA/repos/sdhdf_test_data/browse/uwl_191208_055418.hdf
 
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- Data (including recent ones) obtained with old Parkes receivers are in RPFITS format. They do appear in ATOA ObsTAP services

- Data obtained with new UWL receiver are stored in SDHF format (= an HDF5 Format using the SDFITS header structure) they are available on WEB UI at ATOA but not in ObscOre

Discussion : interest from other groups for SDHF format

 
INAF radio archive
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Alessandra describes the different observing modes (on/off, raster, flying scan, etc...) and the data structure. The data structure is made of table fits extension files for subscans groupped in scan directories with summary headers for all the scan (no SDFITS)
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Alessandra Zanichelli describes the different observing modes (on/off, raster, flying scan, etc...) and the data structure. The data structure is made of table fits extension files for subscans groupped in scan directories with summary headers for all the scan (no SDFITS)
  Also question of mult feed receivers

hierarchichal view --> scan entity is relevant for ObsCore ?

Then Alessandra browsed the mandatory ObsCore parameters

some questions/issues on s_fov, s_region, s_resolution, t_tresolution,

em_res_power not adapted ---> em_resolution

question of multiple spectral windows like LMT (see above)

Discussion : For different spectral windows: at waht part of raw data do people want to go ? is it OK to go back so deep .? in science gateway ..how do we articulate raw data / processed data ...

Do we describe spectral supports instead of splitting observations in several datasets ? --> may be difficult


> this discussion had a follow up within the ESCAPE project

FAST science cases and data
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A presentation by Zheng :
 FAST = 500 m Aperture Spherical radio telescope

5 field cabins

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science and data
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science and data :
 
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HI observation, FRB, pulsars, specral data
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HI observation, HI absorbtion, FRB, pulsars, specral data
  CRAFTS : (comensal survey) half of the sky
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SDFITS format is used with specific additional keywords

KY files have been developped (index files ???)

Dataset size is an issue for distribution

 

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Revision 32022-03-23 - FrancoisBonnarel

 
META TOPICPARENT name="IvoaRadio"

Radio Astronomy Interest Group

Fourth Virtual Meeting 2022, March 7th/8th via zoom

Telecon Agenda:

  • LMT, Peter Teuben
  • GBT, Thomas Chamberlin/
  • Parkes, James Dempsey
  • Italian radioastronomy archive, Alessandra Zanichelli
  • FAST data, Zheng Zheng

Minutes

LMT

Peter Teuben: Obscore for LMT

Make obscore tables for L1-L2 data and above (calibrated spectra, cubes, mosaics, ADMIT products).Host on dataverse

Changed:
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Discussion: questions about units for resolution (arcsec always we think, but need to check ALMA), frequency support (multiple spw per observation). A plan could be same obsid different obsdid for each spw
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Discussion: questions about units for resolution (arcsec always we think, but need to check ALMA), frequency support (multiple spw per observation). A plan could be same obsid different obs_publisher_did for each spectral window
 

GBO

Tom Chamberlin:

GBO data will be stored at new GBO data center and served through the NRAO archive access tool (AAT) (no VO yet for the AAT, is in the long-term plan).

Discussion: best way to ensure VO compatibility - make sure ObsCore information is present (can always write a mapping). Severin suggests start with a TAP service, the TAP layer can do the translation between observatory metadata and obscore.

Parkes

James Dempsey described the current state of VO services from Australian radio projects - will send specs for CASDA VO services that can be placed on the IVOA RIG wiki.

INAF radio archive
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FAST data
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Alessandra describes the different observing modes (on/off, raster, flying scan, etc...) and the data structure. The data structure is made of table fits extension files for subscans groupped in scan directories with summary headers for all the scan (no SDFITS)
 
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Also question of mult feed receivers

hierarchichal view --> scan entity is relevant for ObsCore ?

Then Alessandra browsed the mandatory ObsCore parameters

some questions/issues on s_fov, s_region, s_resolution, t_tresolution,

em_res_power not adapted ---> em_resolution

question of multiple spectral windows like LMT (see above)

Discussion : For different spectral windows: at waht part of raw data do people want to go ? is it OK to go back so deep .? in science gateway ..how do we articulate raw data / processed data ...

Do we describe spectral supports instead of splitting observations in several datasets ? --> may be difficult


> this discussion had a follow up within the ESCAPE project

FAST science cases and data

FAST = 500 m Aperture Spherical radio telescope

5 field cabins

science and data

HI observation, FRB, pulsars, specral data

CRAFTS : (comensal survey) half of the sky

 

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Revision 22022-03-23 - FrancoisBonnarel

 
META TOPICPARENT name="IvoaRadio"

Radio Astronomy Interest Group

Fourth Virtual Meeting 2022, March 7th/8th via zoom

Telecon Agenda:

Changed:
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  • Maryland Peter Teuben
  • GBT Thomas Chamberlin/
  • Parkes James Dempsey
  • Italian radioastronomy archive Alessandra Zanichelli
  • FAST data Zheng Zheng
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  • LMT, Peter Teuben
  • GBT, Thomas Chamberlin/
  • Parkes, James Dempsey
  • Italian radioastronomy archive, Alessandra Zanichelli
  • FAST data, Zheng Zheng
 

Minutes

LMT

Peter Teuben: Obscore for LMT

Make obscore tables for L1-L2 data and above (calibrated spectra, cubes, mosaics, ADMIT products).Host on dataverse

Discussion: questions about units for resolution (arcsec always we think, but need to check ALMA), frequency support (multiple spw per observation). A plan could be same obsid different obsdid for each spw

GBO

Tom Chamberlin:

GBO data will be stored at new GBO data center and served through the NRAO archive access tool (AAT) (no VO yet for the AAT, is in the long-term plan).

Discussion: best way to ensure VO compatibility - make sure ObsCore information is present (can always write a mapping). Severin suggests start with a TAP service, the TAP layer can do the translation between observatory metadata and obscore.

Parkes

James Dempsey described the current state of VO services from Australian radio projects - will send specs for CASDA VO services that can be placed on the IVOA RIG wiki.

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INAF radio archive

FAST data
 

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Revision 12022-03-22 - FrancoisBonnarel

 
META TOPICPARENT name="IvoaRadio"

Radio Astronomy Interest Group

Fourth Virtual Meeting 2022, March 7th/8th via zoom

Telecon Agenda:

  • Maryland Peter Teuben
  • GBT Thomas Chamberlin/
  • Parkes James Dempsey
  • Italian radioastronomy archive Alessandra Zanichelli
  • FAST data Zheng Zheng

Minutes

LMT

Peter Teuben: Obscore for LMT

Make obscore tables for L1-L2 data and above (calibrated spectra, cubes, mosaics, ADMIT products).Host on dataverse

Discussion: questions about units for resolution (arcsec always we think, but need to check ALMA), frequency support (multiple spw per observation). A plan could be same obsid different obsdid for each spw

GBO

Tom Chamberlin:

GBO data will be stored at new GBO data center and served through the NRAO archive access tool (AAT) (no VO yet for the AAT, is in the long-term plan).

Discussion: best way to ensure VO compatibility - make sure ObsCore information is present (can always write a mapping). Severin suggests start with a TAP service, the TAP layer can do the translation between observatory metadata and obscore.

Parkes

James Dempsey described the current state of VO services from Australian radio projects - will send specs for CASDA VO services that can be placed on the IVOA RIG wiki.


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