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Revision 32025-10-29 - MarcoMolinaro

 
META TOPICPARENT name="IvoaTCG"

TCG Meeting (online) - Wednesday October 29 2025 @ 13:00 UTC


Attendees

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  • Attendees : Adrian, André, Baptiste, Brigitta, Gilles, Grégory, Gus, Janet, Jesus, JJ, Joshua, Marco, Mark K, Markus, Pierre F, Renaud, Sara, Sébastien, Tamara, Tom
 
  • Regrets :
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Actions

  • OPEN - put together a template for call for proposals; model after DAL (postponed)
  • NEW - (ALL) brainstorm within groups about contributing to the data model usage hack-a-thon/workshop proposal (OPEN but postponed)
  • NEW - put issues on DocStd git repo and works towards a F2F meeting with TCG (interop?) (ongoing?)

Agenda

  • Review actions

  • (standing item): documents on track
    • RFC
      • VOEvent-2.1 - RFC page
        • status and proposed path forward
Waiting for validator and ref implementations and small text changes. Let's not do full RFC again.

PF: Can we just cite existing 2.0 implementations since the changes are just vocabulary?

BC: Should be able to use 2.0 implementations, but we don't have s/w that parses and validates 2.1 yet.

MD: Part of this is for discovery, so part of the implementation should prove that that part works. The new extensions should be exercised in the implementations.

BC: Agree and think PL may have before the interop.

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  We will take stock at the interop.

      • StandardsRegExt-1.1 RFC page: REC as of 2025-10-20. Thanks everybody!
RS: Will deploy to doc repo soon Reminder to review.

DALI

  • GM: Expect new RFC for DALI before interop

    • EN
      • any?
GL: Proposing an EN for data origin. (https://github.com/ivoa-std/DataOrigin) Would like to know process now.

MM: Need to upload the proposed note (make upload), then e-mail TCG.

MD: Shameless plug: if you're doing ivotex, skim http://ivoa.net/documents/Notes/IVOATexDoc/ to get an idea what it can do for you...

JE: HE note is maturing. Probably ready by end of year. May we ask for prelim review without implementations.

MM: Definitely can ask for feedback on appropriate mail lists (TCG, Interop)

MM: Checking if change to put TD in parallel with DAL, and Sem with DAL-Reg.

MD: Semantics with DAL-Reg is a concern.

SD: Maybe Semantics only needs 1 session (based on current proposals)

No clear solutions. Let's keep as is and see what the final demands are.

AD: Apps may not be full, so maybe could be joint with another group.

MM: Please provide info by Monday on final needs and conflicts. Ideally, would like to avoid WGs clashing with each other. SS contributions so far?

MD: Not sure yet about level of SS contributions. May be candidates for joint session.

    • feedback and finalise by the start of ADASS
    • maybe a last announcement (registration deadline is in 2 days)?
    • TCG attendance: only a few missing!
Please register if you haven't yet.

Try to prepare your roadmaps during the meeting.

  • (long standing topics reminder)
    • astronet.ru
When should we take a decision to remove? MD: Let's do it now since it's so easy to come back when/if it's ready.

Agreed. We'll report that to Exec.

    • positions still TBF: Radio IG vice-chair role is open
    • new website: report
MM: Has been some progress. Nearly there to put in production. Need to video conf with Jeremy to finish CI.

    • IGs & TCG/CSP interfacing
MM: Will discuss with FC at interop

    • a better way to build Roadmap(s)

Ideas welcome

  • AOB
PF: Did we have any proposals come in outside WG/IGs?

MM: Not this time.

  • Date for the next TCG
    • in person (hybrid) in Goerlitz Thursday 13 November 2025 @ 15:00 CET (14:00 UTC)
      • unless you feel an extra vconf is needed

TCG meeting dates, as well as other relevant meetings, should always be reported also at the IVOA Events page.

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Revision 22025-10-29 - TomDonaldson

 
META TOPICPARENT name="IvoaTCG"

TCG Meeting (online) - Wednesday October 29 2025 @ 13:00 UTC

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Attendees

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  • Regrets :
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  • Regrets :
  vconf link: zoom room

Actions

  • OPEN - put together a template for call for proposals; model after DAL (postponed)
  • NEW - (ALL) brainstorm within groups about contributing to the data model usage hack-a-thon/workshop proposal (OPEN but postponed)
  • NEW - put issues on DocStd git repo and works towards a F2F meeting with TCG (interop?) (ongoing?)

Agenda

  • Review actions

  • (standing item): documents on track
    • RFC
      • VOEvent-2.1 - RFC page
        • status and proposed path forward
Added:
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>		Waiting for validator and ref implementations and small text changes. Let's not do full RFC again.

PF: Can we just cite existing 2.0 implementations since the changes are just vocabulary?

BC: Should be able to use 2.0 implementations, but we don't have s/w that parses and validates 2.1 yet.

MD: Part of this is for discovery, so part of the implementation should prove that that part works. The new extensions should be exercised in the implementations.

BC: Agree and think PL may have before the interop.

PF: Can write a validator.

We will take stock at the interop.

 
      • StandardsRegExt-1.1 RFC page: REC as of 2025-10-20. Thanks everybody!
Added:
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>		RS: Will deploy to doc repo soon
 
Added:
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>		Reminder to review.

DALI

  • GM: Expect new RFC for DALI before interop

 
    • EN
      • any?
Added:
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>		GL: Proposing an EN for data origin. (https://github.com/ivoa-std/DataOrigin) Would like to know process now.

MM: Need to upload the proposed note (make upload), then e-mail TCG.

MD: Shameless plug: if you're doing ivotex, skim http://ivoa.net/documents/Notes/IVOATexDoc/ to get an idea what it can do for you...

JE: HE note is maturing. Probably ready by end of year. May we ask for prelim review without implementations.

MM: Definitely can ask for feedback on appropriate mail lists (TCG, Interop)

 
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        • "vocabularize" UCDs

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>		MM: Checking if change to put TD in parallel with DAL, and Sem with DAL-Reg.

MD: Semantics with DAL-Reg is a concern.

SD: Maybe Semantics only needs 1 session (based on current proposals)

No clear solutions. Let's keep as is and see what the final demands are.

AD: Apps may not be full, so maybe could be joint with another group.

MM: Please provide info by Monday on final needs and conflicts. Ideally, would like to avoid WGs clashing with each other. SS contributions so far?

MD: Not sure yet about level of SS contributions. May be candidates for joint session.

 
    • feedback and finalise by the start of ADASS
    • maybe a last announcement (registration deadline is in 2 days)?
    • TCG attendance: only a few missing!
Added:
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>		Please register if you haven't yet.
 
Added:
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>		Try to prepare your roadmaps during the meeting.
 
  • (long standing topics reminder)
    • astronet.ru
Added:
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>		When should we take a decision to remove? MD: Let's do it now since it's so easy to come back when/if it's ready.

Agreed. We'll report that to Exec.

 
    • positions still TBF: Radio IG vice-chair role is open
    • new website: report
Added:
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>		MM: Has been some progress. Nearly there to put in production. Need to video conf with Jeremy to finish CI.
 
    • IGs & TCG/CSP interfacing
Added:
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>		MM: Will discuss with FC at interop
 
    • a better way to build Roadmap(s)
Added:
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>		Ideas welcome
 
  • AOB
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>		PF: Did we have any proposals come in outside WG/IGs?
 
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>		MM: Not this time.
 
  • Date for the next TCG
    • in person (hybrid) in Goerlitz Thursday 13 November 2025 @ 15:00 CET (14:00 UTC)
      • unless you feel an extra vconf is needed

TCG meeting dates, as well as other relevant meetings, should always be reported also at the IVOA Events page.

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Revision 12025-10-24 - MarcoMolinaro

 
META TOPICPARENT name="IvoaTCG"

TCG Meeting (online) - Wednesday October 29 2025 @ 13:00 UTC

Attendees

  • Attendees :

  • Regrets :

vconf link: zoom room

Actions

  • OPEN - put together a template for call for proposals; model after DAL (postponed)
  • NEW - (ALL) brainstorm within groups about contributing to the data model usage hack-a-thon/workshop proposal (OPEN but postponed)
  • NEW - put issues on DocStd git repo and works towards a F2F meeting with TCG (interop?) (ongoing?)

Agenda

  • Review actions

  • (long standing topics reminder)
    • astronet.ru
    • positions still TBF: Radio IG vice-chair role is open
    • new website: report
    • IGs & TCG/CSP interfacing
    • a better way to build Roadmap(s)

  • AOB

  • Date for the next TCG
    • in person (hybrid) in Goerlitz Thursday 13 November 2025 @ 15:00 CET (14:00 UTC)
      • unless you feel an extra vconf is needed

TCG meeting dates, as well as other relevant meetings, should always be reported also at the IVOA Events page. 

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