IvoaTCG-2019-10-09 < IVOA

---+ IVOA TCG F2F Meeting - Wed, 09 Oct 2019 @19:00 Local time - Room 11 (Martini Plaza)
---++++ _Last edit -&gt; Oct 16 (JE) - Filled in meeting notes (in italics) & actions (in bold and repeated in New action section)_
---++ _Attendees_
   * Tom D, Raffaele D, Marco M, James D, Laurent M, Guiliano T, Christine B, Pierre L, Markus D, Andre S, Tim J, Chenzhou C, Kai P, Steve G, Babtiste C, Gerard L, Ada N, Mark A, Bruno M, Francesca C, Pat D, Janet E
---++ _Regrets_

   * CarlosRodrigo,
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---++ Agenda/Mtg Notes
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   * Review Actions (See below) 
      * _No change in action status; PD/JE did meet on the Architecture doc and sketched plans going forward during the meeting; more to dicuss at the next TCG telecon_
   * Current RFC/TCG reviews 
      * See: https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/IvoaTCG#On_going_Recommendations
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _5 standards approved since the Paris interop; Exec approval on all 5 came a few days ago; JE updated TCG table with approved dates_ </span> 
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _Next steps to complete approved standards thread_ </span> 
            * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _Final doc build in ivoatex_ </span>
            * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _Create a registry record with keys defined_ </span>
            * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _ADS provides new DOI; Doc cooridnator updates on web_ </span>
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Four current proposed recommendations (all data models); 3 are in RFC review stage, 1 to be reviewed by TCG after document update </span>
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         * _Provenance - no roadblocks; working on response to RFC feedback; coming soon_
         * _2 related models - Measurements & Coords_ 
            * _Coords model needs updates basedon feedback from trying to implement the transform model_
            * _Plan is to Update/complete transform, update coords model, provide to LSST for test implementation, then present back to TCG_
         * _SSLDM - newest on 10/02_
         * _In talking about DM models the later topic discussion of tighter couple of reference implementations to standards approval took place, few conclusions:_ 
            * _concern expressed by some TCG members that DM recommendations are severely under-reviewed without concrete usage_
            * _concern expressed by some TCG members that "two interoperable implementations" is very fuzzy when it comes to DMs_
            * _proposal to "hold" new models until we can prove interoperability by completing the [[VODML]]-mapping work (from old utypes tiger team)_
   * <span style="background-color: transparent;">TCG topics</span> 
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Document process in github -- discuss here - review and more open discussion in Sunday AM session</span> 
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;">proposal: WG chair and vice chair are admins of the repo; they give document editors read-write permission -- then only chair(s) and editors can merge pull requests</span>
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;">proposal: a team/group made up of TCG (all? chair & vie-chair) will have permission to create new repositories</span>
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;">we do need to assign a license to each repo (proposal: </span>http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/<span style="background-color: transparent;"> -- need exec approval and something should end up inside the docs)</span>
         * _Summary from discussion:_
         * 
            * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _TCG has agreed that we will move the development of standards documents from volute (kindly hosted by GAVO) to github_ </span>
            * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _TCG chair/vice-chair will manage permissions and create repositories for standards (1 repository per document)_ </span>
            * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _WG chair/vice-chair will admin and manage permissions on a set of repositories (~10)_ </span>
            * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _WG chair/vice-chair and specified document editors will have write permission (to merge changes)_ </span>
            * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _details to be demonstrated at Sunday AM session_ </span>
            * <em><span style="background-color: transparent;">TCG recommends that all documents be licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution </span><a rel="nofollow" href="https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/edit/IVOA/ShareAlike?topicparent=IVOA.IvoaExecMeetingFM87;nowysiwyg=0" title="ShareAlike (this topic does not yet exist; you can create it)">ShareAlike</a><span style="background-color: transparent;"> (</span><a target="_top" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/</a><span style="background-color: transparent;">) license: </span><a rel="nofollow" href="https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/edit/IVOA/DocStd?topicparent=IVOA.IvoaExecMeetingFM87;nowysiwyg=0" title="DocStd (this topic does not yet exist; you can create it)">DocStd</a><span style="background-color: transparent;">change</span></em>
            * <em><span style="background-color: transparent;"><strong>ACTION: </strong>PD/JE: Exec review decision when stable of the doc license choice</span></em>
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Tighter coupling of reference implementations to standards approval - TD</span> 
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Highlighted above on DM section</span>
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Offloading /rdf maintenance to the semantics chair - MD</span> 
         * _The Semantics Chair was proposed to have the roll of maintaining vovabularies on ivoa,net_
         * _PD said it would be good for someone in the TCG to manage the vocabularies; Identified that it would be good to have a process description written up_
         * _*ACTION:* MD - write up process description for updaing /rdf maintenance_
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      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Proposal for a - call for presentations for the next interop - GT</span> 
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _GT proposed that a group wiki page could be set up to manage proposed talks at the interop meetings and that there should be a single call for inputs to any of the WG/IG sessions. It will help see similarities in topics to encourage cross WG session_ </span>
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;"><em><strong>ACTION: </strong>TCG - Decide if a central wiki for session coordination is the way to go for Sydney</em></span>
   * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Team Status/Issues</span> 
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Team and project status next 6 months; focus on roadblocks/issues </span> 
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;">JE looking for drivers (whose asking/looking for upgrade; reason)</span>
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> _2019B Roadmap seeded with 2019A inputs; Update the doc and removed the 2019A from your section header_ </span>
   * AOB
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---++ Actions
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   * *NEW* 
      * ACTION: PD/JE: Exec review decision when stable of the doc license choice
      * ACTION: MD - write up process description for updaing /rdf maintenance
      * ACTION: TCG - Decide if a central wiki for session coordination is the way to go for Sydney
   * <strong>DONE<br /></strong> 
      * ACTION-T0819-1: JE - Contact Groningen organizers about moving TCG meeting to Wed evening - *DONE* 
         * _JE sent email this afternoon (8/22) and is waiting for a response (cc'd Mark A/Pat D)_
   * *OPEN/WORKING* 
      * ACTION-T0219-5: PD/JE - kick off the Architecture doc effort and distribute tasks to team - *WORKING*
      * ACTION-F0518-4: Laurant - Produce documentation on how the models relate and how to get started with certain use cases.<strong> WORKING</strong>
      * ACTION-T2019 -6: PD/JE: Ask DOC to transfer links to new Publishing on the VO doc when time is right *- OPEN*
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