TCG-TC-20251029 < IVOA

---+ TCG Meeting (online) - Wednesday October 29 2025 @ 13:00 UTC

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---+++ Attendees

   * _Attendees_ :

   * _Regrets_ :

*vconf link: [[https://inaf-it.zoom.us/j/86150694189?pwd=8a1PxTJz03mhwLjFtdyeQCTbqcofr2.1][zoom room]]*

---++ Actions
   * OPEN - put together a template for call for proposals; model after DAL (*postponed*)
   * NEW - (ALL) brainstorm within groups about contributing to the data model usage hack-a-thon/workshop proposal (*OPEN* but postponed)
   * NEW - put issues on DocStd git repo and works towards a F2F meeting with TCG (interop?) (*ongoing?*)

---++ Agenda

   * Review actions

   * (standing item): documents on track
      * RFC
         * VOEvent-2.1 - [[VOEventV21RFC][RFC page]]
            * status and proposed path forward
*Waiting for validator and ref implementations and small text changes. Let's not do full RFC again.*

*PF: Can we just cite existing 2.0 implementations since the changes are just vocabulary?*

*BC: Should be able to use 2.0 implementations, but we don't have s/w that parses and validates 2.1 yet.*

*MD: Part of this is for discovery, so part of the implementation should prove that that part works. The new extensions should be exercised in the implementations.*

*BC: Agree and think PL may have before the interop.*

*PF: Can write a validator.*

*We will take stock at the interop.*

   * 
      * 
         * !StandardsRegExt-1.1 [[StandardsRegExt11RFC][RFC page]]: REC as of 2025-10-20. Thanks everybody!
*RS: Will deploy to doc repo soon*
   * 
      * 
         * MANGO-1.0 [[Mango10RFC][RFC page]]: status?
*Reminder to review.*

*DALI*
   * *GM: Expect new RFC for DALI before interop*

   * 
      * EN
         * any?
*GL: Proposing an EN for data origin. (https://github.com/ivoa-std/DataOrigin) Would like to know process now.*

*MM: Need to upload the proposed note (make upload), then e-mail TCG.*

*MD: Shameless plug: if you're doing ivotex, skim http://ivoa.net/documents/Notes/IVOATexDoc/ to get an idea what it can do for you...*

*JE: HE note is maturing. Probably ready by end of year. May we ask for prelim review without implementations.*

*MM: Definitely can ask for feedback on appropriate mail lists (TCG, Interop)*

   * 
      * Errata
         * foreseen a SimpleDALRegExt one (clarifying references to ConeSearch)
      * VEPs
         * any?
         * vocabularies (only if news to report)
            * Calibration levels ( [[http://www.ivoa.net/rdf/processing-level][DRAFT]])
            * Object types ( [[http://www.ivoa.net/rdf/object-type][DRAFT]])
            * https://github.com/ivoa-std/SLAP2/pull/1 -&gt; UCDs (https://github.com/ivoa-std/SLAP2/pull/1)
            * "vocabularize" UCDs

   * IVOA Northern Fall November 2025 Interoperability Meeting
      * Görlitz (Germany) - 14-16 November 2025
         * program: InterOpNov2025 (program preparation: ProgramPrep2025B)
         * website: https://indico.ict.inaf.it/event/3325/
         * ADASS XXXV website: https://indico.dzastro.de/event/4/
      * check current draft and comment
*MM: Checking if change to put TD in parallel with DAL, and Sem with DAL-Reg.*

*MD: Semantics with DAL-Reg is a concern.*

*SD: Maybe Semantics only needs 1 session (based on current proposals)*

*No clear solutions. Let's keep as is and see what the final demands are.*

*AD: Apps may not be full, so maybe could be joint with another group.*

*MM: Please provide info by Monday on final needs and conflicts. Ideally, would like to avoid WGs clashing with each other. SS contributions so far?*

*MD: Not sure yet about level of SS contributions. May be candidates for joint session.*

      * feedback and finalise by the start of ADASS
      * maybe a last announcement (registration deadline is in 2 days)?
      * TCG attendance: only a few missing!
*Please register if you haven't yet.*

*Try to prepare your roadmaps during the meeting.*

   * (long standing topics reminder)
      * astronet.ru
*When should we take a decision to remove? MD: Let's do it now since it's so easy to come back when/if it's ready.*

*Agreed. We'll report that to Exec.*

      * positions still TBF: Radio IG vice-chair role is open
      * new website: report
*MM: Has been some progress. Nearly there to put in production. Need to video conf with Jeremy to finish CI.*

      * IGs & TCG/CSP interfacing
*MM: Will discuss with FC at interop*

      * a better way to build Roadmap(s)

*Ideas welcome*

   * AOB
*PF: Did we have any proposals come in outside WG/IGs?*

*MM: Not this time.*

   * Date for the next TCG
      * in person (hybrid) in Goerlitz *Thursday 13 November 2025 @ 15:00 CET (14:00 UTC)*
         * unless you feel an extra vconf is needed

TCG meeting dates, as well as other relevant meetings, should always be reported also at the [[IvoaEvents][IVOA Events page]].

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