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META TOPICPARENT name="IvoaRadio"

Radio Astronomy Interest Group ( Jointly organised with Data Model Working Group)

Eight Virtual Running Meeting 2024, July 2nd via zoom

15:30 to 16:30 UTC

Zoom coordinates:

https://astron.zoom.us/j/81533464364?pwd=bQh0hVs3x3kAmjaLbwoDNJsjIFyIWS.1

Meeting ID: 815 3346 4364

Passcode: 354277

Telecon Agenda:

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1) Representation of the ObsCore extension:
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1) Representation of the ObsCore extension:
 
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The PR standardizes a new ivoa.obscore_radio table and mandates the presence of a obs_publisher_did column in order to be able to do a NATURAL JOIN. Note that Markus suggested to not specify an explicit column to join on...
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The PR standardizes a new ivoa.obscore_radio table and mandates the presence of a obs_publisher_did column in order to be able to do a NATURAL JOIN. Note that Markus suggested to not specify an explicit column to join on...
 
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The PR suggests the possibility to provide a view that does that performs this join but doesn't mandate it and doesn't provide a standardized name for it. Is this desirable? Should this be standardized? How would this work for combining multiple extensions (i.e. Radio + Time Domain).
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The PR suggests the possibility to provide a view that does that performs this join but doesn't mandate it and doesn't provide a standardized name for it. Is this desirable? Should this be standardized? How would this work for combining multiple extensions (i.e. Radio + Time Domain).
 
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2) Discovery of ObsCore extensions
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2) Discovery of ObsCore extensions
 
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Converged on using a utype, but there are still multiple suggestions for the name (ivo://ivoa.net/std/obsradio#table-1.0 vs. ivo://ivoa.net/std/ObsCore#obscore-radioExt-1.0) ?
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Converged on using a utype, but there are still multiple suggestions for the name (ivo://ivoa.net/std/obsradio#table-1.0 vs. ivo://ivoa.net/std/ObsCore#obscore-radioExt-1.0) ?
 
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Should we introduce both table_utype and schema_utype for extensions?
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Should we introduce both table_utype and schema_utype for extensions?
 
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3) t_exp_{min|max|mean}
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3) t_exp_{min|max|mean}
  These still need a science case in the Appendix. Can someone (Baptiste?) provide one? Naming is somewhat confusing (name is similar to t_exptime in ObsCore, but describing a different concept)? Is the description correct now?
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4) s_maximum_angular_scale_{min|max}
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4) s_maximum_angular_scale_{min|max}
 
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Like the FOV and resolution, the maximum spatial scale is actually frequency-dependent. Should we include min/max values in addition to a typical value?
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Like the FOV and resolution, the maximum spatial scale is actually frequency-dependent. Should we include min/max values in addition to a typical value?
 
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5) f_{min|max}
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5) f_{min|max}
 
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These have been dropped in the PR. How to convert em_{max|min} into frequencies has been specified in the standard with a prescribed value for the speed of light. f_resolution has been retained to cater for observations with large fractional bandwidth and fixed spectral resolution across the band. Settled?
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These have been dropped in the PR. How to convert em_{max|min} into frequencies has been specified in the standard with a prescribed value for the speed of light. f_resolution has been retained to cater for observations with large fractional bandwidth and fixed spectral resolution across the band. Settled?
 
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6) Next steps
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6) Next steps
 
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Are we ready for RFC phase?
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Are we ready for RFC phase?
 
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7) AOB
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7) AOB
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Recording:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OvfKgpM2go8oXY4NVNajTkPnbiXyIYd5/view?usp=share_link

 
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