23_Sep_Mtg_Notes < IVOA

---++ Attendees
   * Attendees:
      * Brian, Russ, Dave, Jose, Pat, Adrian, Marco, Jesus, Joshua, Marco, Gregory (M), Janet
   * _Regrets_ :
---++ Zoom
---++ Highlights
   * Work on Prototypes & Documents progressing
   * Discussed additional improvements (non-semantic) to the UWS spec. We will raise this topic with the greater IVOA community, and with client implementors specificially.
   * Discussed engaging with clients and made a plan to invite them to next mtg
   * Next mtg: Oct 16 @20 UTC
   * Actions:
      * Janet draft invite to Clients via Apps group after discussing at TCG
      * Dave prepare ~2 slide for clients mtg with P3T prioriites as a reminder
      * JE with P3T help: Prepare mtg page for Client mtg early with links to docs and perhaps a prototype(?!)
      * ALL: Review the draft docs so we present them to the Clients after internal review
      * ALL: Look at each others prototypes to know we're on the right track here too before Client mtg
---++ Meeting Agenda/Notes
   * Status Updates
      * Josh (UWS, TAP 1.1)
         * Working prototype; spec we have is very good
         * Reviewed Pat's TAP implementation - TAP splits things apary in nice components while UWS is monlithic
         * Russ wonders whether we should rethink UWS and make some changes (non-semantic)
            * Feedback to that suggestion by folks was that making changes opens a debate in TCG and will complicate the goals of P3T
         * Russ noted that his suggestions are not at the semantic level but at the encoding level ... there was more conversation ... good topic to raise with clients
      * Pat (TAP)
         * Making progress
         * OpenAPI: thinking about how to present a prototype
      * Dave (Execution Broker)
         * Working the execution broker functional prototype & an OpenAPI spec with lessons learned;
         * There is a separation between DM and Serialization
         * OpenAPI not tied to Jason (also use Yaml, XML) - May not be future language -proofed
   * IVOA Document
      * Russ - Draft spec is out for review - plan to keep working on it
         * Draft IVOA web service standards framework - https://sqr-091.lsst.io/
         * Draft IVOA SODA web service specification - https://sqr-093.lsst.io/
         * Draft IVOA JSON encoding - https://sqr-092.lsst.io/
   * Engaging with existing clients
      * We talked about 2 types of IVOA participants, both of which have different needs:
         * 1) Those working on existing tools on existing standards
         * 2) Those new to the IVOA with from-scratch IVOA standards to implement
      * TAPLint is an important and significant validator
      * We will send an email to Apps and invite them to the next meeting; find out who is willing to get invovled
      * Show clients the doc that describes the docs; sample implementation as an example, Dave will present a few slides to remind of P3T work; JE will draft an email to Apps group; meeting will be Oct 16 @20 UTC unless we get too much push back and need a poll; JE will describe forward plans of client meeting at TCG mtg on Friday (Sep 27)
   * Looking ahead to the Nov Interop
      * Topic for next mtg
   * Next meetings:
      * Oct 16 <a href="https://twitter.com/20" target="_blank">@20</a>:00 UTC - with clients
      * ??? - one more in preparation for Nov Interop.

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