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---+ IVOA Executive Committee Meeting (FM34)

*Sun Nov 8 2009 @ 16.00-18.00 CET*

*Wed Nov 11 2009 @ 12.30-14.00 CET - Supplementary*

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---++ Logistics

Full Meeting: ESO Garching, Council Room

---++ Agenda 

   1. Roll Call and Agenda - FP
   2. [[%ATTACHURL%/ivoa-tm33-20090923.pdf][Minutes of TM 33]]
   3. [[%ATTACHURL%/actions-for-fm34-20091108.pdf][Review of Action Items - FP]]
   4. TCG status - CA
   5. Reports by WGs - WG Chairs
   6. Standards documents and process - Bruno Rino ([[%ATTACHURL%/SSA_SDM_assessment.ppt][presentation]], [[%ATTACHURL%/SSA_SDM_assessment.xls][merged Spectral metadata definitions]]) + discussion
   7. Prioritisation path - DDY + all
   8. AOB

---++ Agenda FM34 Supplementary (DRAFT as of 20091109)

   1. Roll Call and Agenda - FP
   2. Minutes of FM 34
   3. Approval of new IVOA Recommendation(s) [Standing Item] 
   4. [[%ATTACHURL%/IVOAPrioritization1109b.pdf][Prioritisation path (ctd.)]]
   5. [[%ATTACHURL%/BHdocumentationproposal0909.pdf][Standards documents and process (ctd.)]]
   6. [[%ATTACHURL%/ALweb-thoughts0909.pdf][IVOA Web site]] - AL 
   7. WG Chairs (VOQL, Registry) ; Exec Secretary
   8. Discontinuation of Astro-RG as IG - MO 
   9. Next Interops
   10. AOB


 
---++ Reports from the Projects

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---+++ AstroGrid (UK-VO)

Since our report for TM33, we have submitted a proposal to STFC to support the creation
of the AstroGrid Software Foundation, as an open source project to maintain and
develop the AstroGrid technical infrastructure suite. We will welcome software contributions
from other VO projects and data centre staff, as well as ex-AstroGrid staff on continuing EU and UK VO-related projects.  The proposal has been submitted
under "urgency procedure" so we hope for an answer soon. 

Meanwhile, it is worth repeating that we have made a full documented release of the infrastructure software, which can be found at http://deployer.astrogrid.org . This is intended for both data centres and other VO projects. As before, the astronomer user-software is downloadable from a separate site, http://www.astrogrid.org

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---+++ China-VO 

Please refer to the report for TM33: http://www.ivoa.net/cgi-bin/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/IvoaExecMeetingTM33#China_VO 

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---+++ CVO


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---+++ France VO


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---+++ GAVO


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---+++ HVO

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---+++ Japan-VO 

Some Japan-VO members joined the LOC of the ADASS2009 held in Sapporo, Japan. There were about 220 participants, and JVO members presented our progress at the ADASS meeting. Yuji Shirasaki has submitted a science paper on the evolution of AGNs over wide redshift ranges by using all the SuprimeCAM images  (http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5380). The paper is expected to be published soon.

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---+++ Korean VO 

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---+++ NVO 

NVO remains in a state of very constrained activity as we wait for NSF to release the promised funding for the VAO.  Progress is being made in resolving legal issues concerning the relationship between the agency and the VAO, LLC, the new organization founded by AUI and AURA to manage the VAO.  However, given that all previous expectations of progress have not been met, we are reluctant to predict when VAO will really get going.

On the other hand, NASA's initial contribution to VAO is now funded, and in the absence of an overall project plan (which cannot be completed until the NSF funding is in place), we are engaged in core maintenance and support activities such as registry curation and service testing and validation.

US VO staff continue to hold weekly technical telecons on a best-effort basis.

We have recruited a VAO Science Council, but that body will not convene until we have resolved the NSF funding issues.

We have also established a VAO Board of Directors, which met by telecon in July and will meet again by telecon later in November.  Dr. Jay Gallagher (U. Wisconsin, and editor of the Astronomical Journal) is the chair of the VAO Board.

BobHanisch, 4 Nov 2009

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---+++ RVO 


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---+++ SVO 
 
   *Manpower:* 9 FTEs. The SVO Thematic Network (people from Spanish institutes with interest in the VO) is composed of 112 members in 28 institutes.

   *Standards:* Work on access protocols and models for theoretical data is progressing. Information on this topic can be found at: http://svo.laeff.inta.es/theory/

   *VO-compliance of astronomical archives:*

- The LAEX and NASA portals for COROT public data.2009A&A...506..455S. E. Solano, K. von Braun, A. Velasco, D. R. Ciardi, R. Gutiérrez, 

- GAIA and the Virtual Observatory. Gaia: The Galaxy in a Petabyte. Menorca, Spain. Oct 2009. Enrique Solano (invited talk).

- E-ELT, ALMA and the Virtual Observatory. Scientific and techonological challenges in the development of astronomical instrumentation: ALMA and E-ELT. Madrid, Sep 2009. Enrique Solano (invited talk).

- The Virtual Observatory and the archives of the robotic telescopes. 
III Workshop on Robotic Telescopes in Spain. Madrid, Sep 2009. Enrique Solano (oral presentation).

   *Data Mining:*

- Automated supervised classification of variable stars. II. Application to the OGLE database. Sarro, L. M.; Debosscher, J.; López, M.; Aerts, C. 2009 A&A, 494, 739.

- Statistical techniques. Gaia: The Galaxy in a Petabyte. Menorca, Spain. Oct 2009. Luis Manuel Sarro (invited talk).

   *VO Science:*

- Discovery of ultracool subdwrafs using Virtual Observatory tools. Workshop on Recipes for making brownies: theory vs. observations. ESTEC, The Netherlands, September 2009. E. Solano (oral presentation).

- Protoplanetary discs of isolated VLMOs discovered in the IPHAS survey. Workshop on Recipes for making brownies: theory vs. observations. ESTEC, The Netherlands, September 2009. L. Valdivielso,E. Martín, H. Bouy, E. Solano, J.Drew, R. Greimel, B. Riaz
(oral presentation).

   *Theory and VO:*

- Asteroseismology and the VO. XXXII Bienal de Física. Ciudad Real, Spain. Sep 2009. J.C. Suárez, E. Solano, C. Rodriguez, A. García-Hernández, A. Moya. (oral presentation).

   *Education:*

- The Virtual Observatory in the classroom. III Workshop on Robotic telescopes in Spain. Madrid, Sep 2009. Miriam Aberasturi, Enrique Solano.

   *Meetings:*

- First SVO School. Granada 27-28 octiber 2009. http://svo.laeff.inta.es/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpWiki&file=index&pagename=Meetings-SVO_thematic_network_First_Hands-on

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---+++ VObs.it 

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---+++ VO-India

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---++ Reports from WGs & IGs(follows order as at http://www.ivoa.net/forum/)
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---+++ Applications WG 

There has been limited formal activity within Apps on standards.  However, as will be shown in this meeting, there has been significant work in implementing SAMP and in extending the protocol to new classes of applications, e.g., distributed and Web applications.



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---+++ Data Access Layer WG 
DAL remains focused in three main areas, TAP, SIAP and Footprint Services with most focus on the first two.

Progress in TAP is slow but positive. The standard is just completing its second RFC period and I believe the core requirements have been met. Editorial changes will be completed once the RFC period ends and I look forward to completing the process during the Garching Interop.<br>
__Footnote:__ TAP V1.0 will not be perfect, but it is implementable, does fulfill the 80/20 rule and will provide the basis for future expansion of TAP capabilities. As an organisation, IVOA needs to be agile in accommodating those changes.

SIAv1 is effectively complete and ready for retrospective approval.

First draft version SIAv2 specification has been finished. This is largely the work of the core author group with some contributions from the
extended author group. It is very much an early draft but summarizes the lines that have been discussed. The draft will be uploaded to the wiki and announced in the DAL forum in time for the Interop sessions where it will be extensively discussed.

SSAP discussions have centred on implementing prototype servers/client that contain photometric data (instead of spectra) in the
context of the AIDA project.

Generic Data Set discussions have largely stopped and focus turned to the official <nop>ObsDM/TAP work that is proceeding along similar lines.

Footprint effort is still ongoing (and will be presented during DAL sessions) but this remains a back-burner effort for now.

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---+++ Data Models WG  IVOA.MireilleLouys, 6 Nov 2009                        

      *ObservationDM:*

         *ObsCoreComponents DM:* fast track

Usecases for data discovery in multiwavelength data discovery.
A set of various data discovery cases gathered by David Schade from Exec memebers and other scientists, has been described.

According to theses we started the conception of the !ObsCore Data model to describe the necessary metadata for these queries. 
We defined a set of 16 items that should be suported by a service in order to match the defined use-cases.

There has been 3 meetings to keep the project on the track: Strasbourg in July, Trieste in September, Baltimore in  November, where the first proposal was exposed and discussed with various people in charge of the main data centers archives. Data providers feedback is currently beeing collected.
Implementations are currently discussed.

         *Full Observation DM :* 
Current suggestions appearing for complex observations. 
Provenance : Juan de Dios Santander, Arancha Delgado involved in provenance modeling at ESO ( A. Micol) 
Photometry : a prototype data model discussed in Trieste (Euro-VO AIDA).
         
         *Polarisation:* 
a new WD for a Note and examples have been prepared by Anita Richards.

         *Utypes:*
a new draft has just appeared. Unfortunately the previous versions distributed in May was not much commented.

         *Provenance:* 
Juan de Dios Santander, Arancha Delgado involved in provenance modeling at ESO ( A. Micol) 

         *Units:* 
Current draft revision and preparation of a BNF grammar and parser to be able to: 
a) validate a string as a standard IVOA unit

b) recognise a valid notation and suggest a better IVOA compliant string 

c)reject a unit string if totally incorrect.
data model 

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---+++ Grid and Web Services Working Group 
VOSpace 1.15 has become an IVOA Recommendation. Credential Delegation Protocol has completed its RFC and awaiting final TCG approval. UWS is currently under RFC and VOSI is on the verge of going to RFC. Basic Web Profile (WS-I) is almost ready to go to PR. VOSpace 2.0 development has continued through the summer and hopefully all remaining issues can be resolved at this meeting.


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---+++ Registry WG 

The attention of the Registry Working Group over the last six months
has been on developing standards documents and on addressing registry
interoperability and curation issues.  

We just completed an RFC period for the VODataService XML metadata
extension schema during a time when there a large number of documents
under review.  At the end, we only had 3 reviews.  It was developed
over a long period of time with broad input and in close collaboration
with the TAP and VOSI efforts, and while there is nothing particularly
controversial about this specification, some advisement as to whether
the current response is enough to proceed.  One suggestion is to make
a special request to the registry efforts in the major projects to
"sign off" on the RFC page.

The documents of interest for us VOStandard, VOApplication, and
RegSimpleDAL (registry metadata extensions for SCS, SIA, and SSA).
Working Drafts are now available for all three of these, and I expect
that, since again their history is long and are not controversial,
these can be prepped for PR fairly quickly.  At this Interop, we will
decide the priorities.

On the curation side, we are seeing ever increasing efforts to improve
the quality of the records in our registries and the services they
point to.  Aurelien Stebe from the Euro-VO has developed initial
versions of validaters for SSA and SLAP services (using the existing
validation toolkit developed by the NVO project); this week he will present
these validators as well as our efforts to build more IVOA-wide
ownership of the validation process and the tests that go into them.
The NVO project continues to push both automated (via software
validaters) and human driven curation practices intended to improve
interoperability.  We will have a session on this topic this week
which will include a discussion of a process for correcting registry
records.  Last Interop, we took an action to record our current
practices, tips, and recommendations for running and use registries;
we will open up that effort this week.  

-- IVOA.RayPlante - 08 Nov 2009
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---+++ Semantics/UCD WG 

After SKOS became a W3C Recommendation this summer, the "Vocabularies in the 
Virtual Observatory" document v1.19 became an IVOA recommendation on October 
07, 2009. This gives a solid block on which groups willing to develop SKOS
vocabularies for the VO can rely on.

Several groups (VOEvent, DM) are likely to develop implementations of 
vocabularies: need for support.

There have been a few new inputs to the new version of the UCD document,
and it still needs minor editorial changes before distribution as a new WD.
New version v1.24. 


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---+++ VOEvent
Development continues on VOEvent 2.0 and SEAP. Community uptake also continues apace as well as associated initiatives such as SkyAlert.

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---+++ VOQL WG 


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---+++ VOTable WG 
VOTable-1.2 standard is now ready for REC. Short story:
   * RFC period 2009-07-10 to 2009-09-09 (on version 20090710): useful discussions (esp. compatibility issues with other standards,  and finalisation wrt TAP-required additions discussed at the Strasbourg meeting) which led to modifications of the document and XML-schema ==> PR-20090929
   * TCG review period (2009-10-01 to 2009-11-06): as usual, despite reminders, not all WGs filled their part (6/13 are still missing at the end of the period). Editorial correction suggestions have been applied ==>  *PR-VOTable-1.2-20091102.pdf* (+html) which I consider as the final version ready for REC. useful discussions too about the role of the elementFormDefault attribute in the schema (should there be an IVOA recommendation?) ==> ammended version of the VOTable-1.2 XML schema.
   * All these documents are now in their correct location (thanks to Bruno) and I expect the REC blessing can occur now. There is no need for a VOTable session here, but the future status of the VOtable WG should be defined.
FrancoisOchsenbein 07Nov2009
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---+++ Astro-RG IG

No activities since the last InterOp.

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----+++ Data Curation and Preservation IG



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---+++ Theory IG

The activity of Theory Interest Group has focused on several activities.

- Simulation Data Model (SimDM): work as been done to extend and complete the data model.
The effort has been split in two main parts, the first dedicated to the 
specification of the overall model, with a descriptive introduction to the 
adopted methodology and a detailed description of the resulting schema,
the second dedicated to the derivation on a !SimDM based TAP-like service, 
which can be used as a support to !SimDAP. Furthermore, the !SimDM-TAP can be
seen as an alternative (but equivalent) realization of a S3 service. This is a basic step in 
the direction of integration and homogeneization of the two protocols. Further discussion 
is expected during the Interop.

- Simulation Data Access Protocol (!SimDAP): we have worked to extend and generalize
the protocol in order to be suitable to a large variety of numerical data. 
The main objective is still to select and subsample a dataset, but now with a 
generic number of dimensions (not just 3D) and using arbitrary selection 
paramenters (not just the coordinates). The protocol has been defined in 
most of the details, even if more discussion and work is needed on the 
responses and results issues.
 
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-- IVOA.FabioPasian - 09 Nov 2009    




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