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META TOPICPARENT	name="IvoaTCG"

IVOA TCG Telecon - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 @15:00 UTC via WebEx

last edit - Mar29 - JE

Mar 29 - Seeded mtg page - JE

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Apr 03 - Updated agenda, added to regrets - JE

Attendees

Mtg notes added below: Added meeting discussion to agenda items in italics; added actions in red, added status to WG/IG sections below if not filled in prior to meeting (in italics) - anyone is welcome to update/correct. Add an update line in the section above with your initials.

Agenda

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Regrets for not attending: Christophe, Ada, Kai

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Regrets for not attending: Christophe, Ada, Kai, Mark

WG/IG Status/Issues
Working Draft/PR/RFC
- http://www.ivoa.net/documents/
- Open errata to consider at this mtg :
  - DM (Laurent Michel)
    - ObsCore 1.1: https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ObsCore-1_1-Errata
      - https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ObsCore-1_1-Erratum-1: invalid UCD in Table 6.
      - https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ObsCore-1_1-Erratum-2: typos and impl. feedback from Marco
    - STC 1.33 : https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/STC-1_33-Errata
      - https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/STC-1_33-Erratum-1: Corrects area equation for polygon
      - https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/STC-1_33-Erratum-2: Corrects equation for addressing A <
  - Registry
    - Discovering Data Collections (Markus)
      - http://ivoa.net/documents/Notes/discovercollections/index.html
May Interop Planning Coordination page
- WG/IG calls for sessions - have seen many/all go out - How's the feedback??
- https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ProgramPrepParis
- Few notes
  - ML requested start of TCG mtg to be 10:30
  - From last telecon: Henrik noted they were planning a Intro to the IVOA session before the Interop (Sunday afternoon)

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Provenance model - PR2 (Laurent Michel)

IVOA Architecture Document update status
Review Actions
- See list below
AOB

Roadmap

2018B Roadmap - Reference leading to Paris Meeting

Document Submission Logs (since last Interop)

20181212

NOTE-timesysnote-1.1-20181212

1.1

Markus Demleitner

Note

published

Previous Actions:

ACTION-F0518-3: FG - Ensure that the important IVOA standards are in the RDA registry of standards (Note added 11/18 - DCP?/Registry?). OPEN
ACTION-F0518-4: MCD - Produce documentation on how the models relate and how to get started with certain use cases. OPEN
ACTION-F0518-8: DM/PD - Prototype hosting a document standard and issue tracking in GitHub. WORKING
ActionT0219-1: JE/PD action to review and suggest updates to TCG charter, then follow through
ActionT0219-2: PD - send email to review and consider ObsCore/STC errata at next telecon
ActionT0219-3: MM - Ask Giulia to remove VOEvent/VODML from active column - DONE
ActionT0219-4: TD - Identify people to make VOEvent changes and rewrite VoEventRegExt,
ActionT0219-5: PD/JE - kick off the Architecture doc effort effort and distribute tasks to team
ActionT2019-6: PD/JE: Ask DOC to transfer links to new Publishing on the VO doc when time is right

New Actions

Status:

WG/Apps (TD/RD)

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WG/DAL (MM/JD)

Status:

Issues: (from Feb telecon - needs update)

Service Weather report on DAL protocol "SHOULD"s: collected data providers view, need to report (here, e.g.)
polygon CCW: modelling seems solved (errata in other WGs), data providers side, how to proceed?

WG/DM (MCD/LM)

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Issues:

WG/GWS (BM/GT)

Status:

Issues: (from Feb telecon - needs update)

XML Schema Versioning - issues to be addressed

WG/Registry (ThD/PLS)

Status:

Issues:

WG/Semantics (ML/MD)

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Issues:

IG/Data Curation & Preservation (AS/TJ)

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Issues:

IG/Education (CC/HH)

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Issues:

IG/KDD (KP/MG)

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Issues:

IG/Ops (TM/MT)

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IG/Solar System (BC/SJ)

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IG/Theory (CR)

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IG/TDIG (AN/DM)

Status:

Issues: (from Feb telecon - needs update)

TIMESYS
- Discussion over "ref" as a mandatory field or optional is now open.
- How to get feedback from preference of data providers?
Time Series model & serialization
- Dependance on other models slows the process.
- Observed process for other models is not encouraging.
- Understanding the limit between model and serialization is not straight forward. What goes where? Need to see both model and serializations to understand if all the information needed is existing somewhere.
- Need to have some serialization examples based on VO-DML (at least first attempts). Who is doing that?
- Serialization based on utypes: list of utypes needs to be built (last interop some mistakes were found) and shared with the TDIG.

Revision 12019-03-29 - JanetEvans

META TOPICPARENT	name="IvoaTCG"

IVOA TCG Telecon - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 @15:00 UTC via WebEx

last edit - Mar29 - JE

Mar 29 - Seeded mtg page - JE

Attendees

Agenda

Regrets for not attending: Christophe, Ada, Kai
WG/IG Status/Issues
Working Draft/PR/RFC
- http://www.ivoa.net/documents/
- Open errata to consider at this mtg :
  - DM (Laurent Michel)
    - ObsCore 1.1: https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ObsCore-1_1-Errata
      - https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ObsCore-1_1-Erratum-1: invalid UCD in Table 6.
      - https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ObsCore-1_1-Erratum-2: typos and impl. feedback from Marco
    - STC 1.33 : https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/STC-1_33-Errata
      - https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/STC-1_33-Erratum-1: Corrects area equation for polygon
      - https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/STC-1_33-Erratum-2: Corrects equation for addressing A <
  - Registry
    - Discovering Data Collections (Markus)
      - http://ivoa.net/documents/Notes/discovercollections/index.html
May Interop Planning Coordination page
- WG/IG calls for sessions - have seen many/all go out - How's the feedback??
- https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/ProgramPrepParis
- Few notes
  - ML requested start of TCG mtg to be 10:30
  - From last telecon: Henrik noted they were planning a Intro to the IVOA session before the Interop (Sunday afternoon)
IVOA Architecture Document update status
Review Actions
- See list below
AOB

Roadmap

2018B Roadmap - Reference leading to Paris Meeting

Document Submission Logs (since last Interop)

20181212

NOTE-timesysnote-1.1-20181212

1.1

Markus Demleitner

Note

published

Previous Actions:

ACTION-F0518-3: FG - Ensure that the important IVOA standards are in the RDA registry of standards (Note added 11/18 - DCP?/Registry?). OPEN
ACTION-F0518-4: MCD - Produce documentation on how the models relate and how to get started with certain use cases. OPEN
ACTION-F0518-8: DM/PD - Prototype hosting a document standard and issue tracking in GitHub. WORKING
ActionT0219-1: JE/PD action to review and suggest updates to TCG charter, then follow through
ActionT0219-2: PD - send email to review and consider ObsCore/STC errata at next telecon
ActionT0219-3: MM - Ask Giulia to remove VOEvent/VODML from active column - DONE
ActionT0219-4: TD - Identify people to make VOEvent changes and rewrite VoEventRegExt,
ActionT0219-5: PD/JE - kick off the Architecture doc effort effort and distribute tasks to team
ActionT2019-6: PD/JE: Ask DOC to transfer links to new Publishing on the VO doc when time is right

New Actions

Status:

WG/Apps (TD/RD)

Status:

WG/DAL (MM/JD)

Status:

Issues: (from Feb telecon - needs update)

Service Weather report on DAL protocol "SHOULD"s: collected data providers view, need to report (here, e.g.)
polygon CCW: modelling seems solved (errata in other WGs), data providers side, how to proceed?

WG/DM (MCD/LM)

Status:

Issues:

WG/GWS (BM/GT)

Status:

Issues: (from Feb telecon - needs update)

XML Schema Versioning - issues to be addressed

WG/Registry (ThD/PLS)

Status:

Issues:

WG/Semantics (ML/MD)

Status:

Issues:

IG/Data Curation & Preservation (AS/TJ)

Status:

Issues:

IG/Education (CC/HH)

Status:

Issues:

IG/KDD (KP/MG)

Status:

Issues:

IG/Ops (TM/MT)

Status:

Issues:

IG/Solar System (BC/SJ)

Status:

Issues:

IG/Theory (CR)

Status:

Issues:

IG/TDIG (AN/DM)

Status:

Issues: (from Feb telecon - needs update)

TIMESYS
- Discussion over "ref" as a mandatory field or optional is now open.
- How to get feedback from preference of data providers?
Time Series model & serialization
- Dependance on other models slows the process.
- Observed process for other models is not encouraging.
- Understanding the limit between model and serialization is not straight forward. What goes where? Need to see both model and serializations to understand if all the information needed is existing somewhere.
- Need to have some serialization examples based on VO-DML (at least first attempts). Who is doing that?
- Serialization based on utypes: list of utypes needs to be built (last interop some mistakes were found) and shared with the TDIG.

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