Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll start our meeting in Schwarzschildhaus, seminar room at the ground floor. This is the building on the left side with the long roof. There's also a sign "Empfang" pointing there. Enter the buildung, walk straight ahead, turn left after the coffee machine. The room straight ahead is the seminar room. We may later switch to another room if there are WLAN troubles.

The bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

If you arrive by plane in Berlin, you can buy a Berlin ABC ticket (3.40 Euro single trip). This covers the Potsdam public transport as well. Check out the best connection via http://www.bahn.de or https://www.vbb.de/en/index.html.

We plan to have dinner at an Indian restaurant in Babelsberg at 7 pm on Thursday: http://restaurant-sagar.de/

Lunch is available at our small cantine, open from 11:30 - 14:00. They serve three different dishes each day for < 5 Euros. On Friday, we could also order Pizza, e.g. from Smileys. Their current lunch offer is here: Lunch offers (not in English, but with pictures! :-))

I'll provide some cookies for our breaks.

Meeting Agenda

Thursday, 18th January 2018

Friday, 19th January 2018

Topics to discuss / suggestions

• Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel
• review comments received on the dm list since Kristin issued the document
• review/clarify the minutes of splinter meeting at ADASS. ( I have uploaded a corrected version on the wiki page)
• define how to build a hierarchy of the metadata we want.
  Usually we have the terms MUST, SHOULD, MAY to define the standard description, but here we need to define different
  levels of description of the Provenance INFO, because some projects will want it to be compact and simple, and some
  others would like to be fully detailed, and the intermediate cases may also happen.
  Could we try to define 2 or 3 levels of templates for serialising the model?
• Data Access Layer: What to keep in the current DM document and what to describe in a DAL document
  • TAP implementation status (Francois, Mireille)
• Status of reference implementations

Useful links:

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Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll start our meeting in Schwarzschildhaus, seminar room at the ground floor. This is the building on the left side with the long roof. There's also a sign "Empfang" pointing there. Enter the buildung, walk straight ahead, turn left after the coffee machine. The room straight ahead is the seminar room. We may later switch to another room if there are WLAN troubles.

The bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

If you arrive by plane in Berlin, you can buy a Berlin ABC ticket (3.40 Euro single trip). This covers the Potsdam public transport as well. Check out the best connection via http://www.bahn.de or https://www.vbb.de/en/index.html.

We plan to have dinner at an Indian restaurant in Babelsberg at 7 pm on Thursday: http://restaurant-sagar.de/

Lunch is available at our small cantine, open from 11:30 - 14:00. They serve three different dishes each day for < 5 Euros. On Friday, we could also order Pizza, e.g. from Smileys. Their current lunch offer is here: Lunch offers (not in English, but with pictures! :-))

I'll provide some cookies for our breaks.

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

• Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel
• review comments received on the dm list since Kristin issued the document
• review/clarify the minutes of splinter meeting at ADASS. ( I have uploaded a corrected version on the wiki page)
• define how to build a hierarchy of the metadata we want.
  Usually we have the terms MUST, SHOULD, MAY to define the standard description, but here we need to define different
  levels of description of the Provenance INFO, because some projects will want it to be compact and simple, and some
  others would like to be fully detailed, and the intermediate cases may also happen.
  Could we try to define 2 or 3 levels of templates for serialising the model?
• Data Access Layer: What to keep in the current DM document and what to describe in a DAL document
  • TAP implementation status (Francois, Mireille)
• Status of reference implementations

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

• Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel
• review comments received on the dm list since Kristin issued the document
• review/clarify the minutes of splinter meeting at ADASS. ( I have uploaded a corrected version on the wiki page)
• define how to build a hierarchy of the metadata we want.
  Usually we have the terms MUST, SHOULD, MAY to define the standard description, but here we need to define different
  levels of description of the Provenance INFO, because some projects will want it to be compact and simple, and some
  others would like to be fully detailed, and the intermediate cases may also happen.
  Could we try to define 2 or 3 levels of templates for serialising the model?
• Data Access Layer: What to keep in the current DM document and what to describe in a DAL document
  • TAP implementation status (Francois, Mireille)
• Status of reference implementations

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

We plan to have dinner at an Indian restaurant in Babelsberg at 7 pm on Thursday: http://restaurant-sagar.de/

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

• Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel
• review comments received on the dm list since Kristin issued the document
• review/clarify the minutes of splinter meeting at ADASS. ( I have uploaded a corrected version on the wiki page)
• define how to build a hierarchy of the metadata we want.
  Usually we have the terms MUST, SHOULD, MAY to define the standard description, but here we need to define different
  levels of description of the Provenance INFO, because some projects will want it to be compact and simple, and some
  others would like to be fully detailed, and the intermediate cases may also happen.
  Could we try to define 2 or 3 levels of templates for serialising the model?
• Data Access Layer: What to keep in the current DM document and what to describe in a DAL document
  • TAP implementation status (Francois, Mireille)
• Status of reference implementations

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

Name	Organisation <-- -->	Arrival time	Leaving time
Kristin Riebe	AIP	2018-01-18, 8:30 am	2018-01-19, 5:00 pm
Mireille Louys	CDS/ICube Strasbourg	2018-01-18, 9:00 am	2018-01-19, 4:00 pm
Michèle Sanguillon	LUPM - CNRS	2018-01-17, 7:00 pm	2018-01-19, 4:00 pm
Mathieu Servillat	LUTH - CNRS/ObsParis/PSL	2018-01-18, 12:00 pm	2018-01-19, 5:00 pm

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

We plan to have dinner at an Indian restaurant in Babelsberg at 7 pm on Thursday: http://restaurant-sagar.de/

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

• Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel
• review comments received on the dm list since Kristin issued the document
• review/clarify the minutes of splinter meeting at ADASS. ( I have uploaded a corrected version on the wiki page)
• define how to build a hierarchy of the metadata we want.
  Usually we have the terms MUST, SHOULD, MAY to define the standard description, but here we need to define different
  levels of description of the Provenance INFO, because some projects will want it to be compact and simple, and some
  others would like to be fully detailed, and the intermediate cases may also happen.
  Could we try to define 2 or 3 levels of templates for serialising the model?
• Data Access Layer: What to keep in the current DM document and what to describe in a DAL document
  • TAP implementation status (Francois, Mireille)
• Status of reference implementations

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

We plan to have dinner at an Indian restaurant in Babelsberg at 7 pm on Thursday: http://restaurant-sagar.de/

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

• Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel
• review comments received on the dm list since Kristin issued the document
• review/clarify the minutes of splinter meeting at ADASS. ( I have uploaded a corrected version on the wiki page)
• define how to build a hierarchy of the metadata we want.
  Usually we have the terms MUST, SHOULD, MAY to define the standard description, but here we need to define different
  levels of description of the Provenance INFO, because some projects will want it to be compact and simple, and some
  others would like to be fully detailed, and the intermediate cases may also happen.
  Could we try to define 2 or 3 levels of templates for serialising the model?
• Data Access Layer: What to keep in the current DM document and what to describe in a DAL document
  • TAP implementation status (Francois, Mireille)
• Status of reference implementations

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

• Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel
• review comments received on the dm list since Kristin issued the document
• review/clarify the minutes of splinter meeting at ADASS. ( I have uploaded a corrected version on the wiki page)
• define how to build a hierarchy of the metadata we want.
  Usually we have the terms MUST, SHOULD, MAY to define the standard description, but here we need to define different
  levels of description of the Provenance INFO, because some projects will want it to be compact and simple, and some
  others would like to be fully detailed, and the intermediate cases may also happen.
  Could we try to define 2 or 3 levels of templates for serialising the model?
• Data Access Layer: What to keep in the current DM document and what to describe in a DAL document
  • TAP implementation status (Francois, Mireille)
• Status of reference implementations

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel

Please complete with your suggestions here

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel

Please complete with your suggestions here

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astrophysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel

Please complete with your suggestions here

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel

Please complete with your suggestions here

Useful links:

Add useful links here

Provenance meeting in Potsdam, Germany, 2018 January 18th to January 19th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Data Center and Asterics Project

Follow_up_meeting

hosted at Leibniz-Institute for Astropysics, Potsdam, Germany ( AIP)

Participants

insert your name here...

Venue

Leibniz-Insitute for Astrophysics Potsdam, An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany How to get there

We'll probably meet in Leibnizhaus, seminar room at the top floor (go upstairs, turn right). The building is locked from the outside; if the door is not open, please call me (ask for my phone number by mail) or go to the reception in Scharzschildhaus and tell them to call me or the seminar room, There's a coffee machine and a sofa at Schwarzschildhaus, so you can make yourself comfortable while waiting.

Bus 694 arrives every 20 - 40 minutes, stop "Sternwarte" is directly at the campus.

Meeting Agenda

Topics to discuss / suggestions

Remaining Discussion points and TODOs from http://wiki.ivoa.net/bin/view/IVOA/ObservationProvenanceDataModel

Please complete with your suggestions here

Useful links:

Add useful links here