HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Aug 30, 2024 @ 13:00 UTC

Attendees

• Attendees:
  • Catherine Boisson - catherine.boisson@obspm.fr
  • Francesca Civano - francesca.m.civano@nasa.gov
  • Ian Evans - ievans@cfa.harvard.edu
  • Janet Evans - janet@cfa.harvard.edu
  • Jutta Schinabel - jutta.schnabel@fau.de
  • Mathieu Servillat - mathieu.servillat@obspm.fr
  • Pierre Cristofari - pierre.cristofari@obspm.fr
  • Raffaele D'Abrusco - rdabrusc@cfa.harvard.edu
  • Bruno Khélifi - khelifi@in2p3.fr
  • Karl Kosack - karl.kosack at cta-observatory.org
  • Matthias Fuessling - matthias.fuessling@cta-observatory.org
  • Tess Jaffe - tess.jaffe@nasa.gov
  • Andy Ptak - andrew.ptak@nasa.gov
• Regrets
  • Giuseppe Greco - giuseppe.greco@pg.infn.it

Actions

• New
  • JE request a session at the Interop for the HEIG
  • HEIG members review the Old actions and continue to work on them
• Old
  • Giuseppe Greco - weriteup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength) - ??
  • Juta - use case for Neutrino's - ??
  • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2) - OPEN
  • ??? - Expand SVOM description (Sec 2.2.3) - OPEN
  • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4) - OPEN
  • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient) - OPEN
  • Mathieu (ALL see below) - Section 5 use case review - OPEN
  • Laurent - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - OPEN
  • Mathieu - Provenance section - ??
    
  • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2) - INCOMPLETE
    • Put Obscore section together to not lose what there but not do the deifnitive work on a list; keep list as candidates in discussion
  • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3 - NEEDS REVIEW
  • Mathieu - Section 6.4, DataLink example - OPEN
  • Ian - provide data flow specifications; open section to handle Neutrino; Section 3 - Review ... may need to qualify for data it maps to - DONE
  • Tess - OGIP format description (Sec 3.3.1) - DONE
  • Karl/Juta - GADF/VODF review (Sec 3.3.2) - DONE
  • Karl - Use cases - Section 4.2/4.4 - review/expand (I believe Karl took actions on Bruno and would take back to group) - DONE
• Very Old
• • MCD - MCD suggested Use cases that follow a story board are helpful to WGs that work to implement the standards; Mark will make several examples available to guide HEIG contributors - OPEN
  • ALL - Several specific use cases were mentioned to add and we're sure there are more - (Events lists, science alerts (multi messenger), Vos-Obj, response functions) - Let's work to add use cases - WORKING

Meeting Agenda

• (Meeting notes added to the agenda and appear in BOLD)
  
  
• General Info
  • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17
    
    
• Links to VO and HE Astrophysics Draft: (also linked from HE wiki page)
  • 2024-08-30_VOHE-Note-draft.pdf - PDF
  • https://github.com/ivoa/HighEnergyDataNote - IVOA GitHub
    
    
• IVOA HEIG Note
  • MS reviewed actions on doc based on GitHub recorded 'actions'
    • HEIG group needs to review action list above to help JE map the actions recorded at meeting to GitHub 'actions'
  • We reviewed/discussed the overall Document approach.
    • We should start out broad and cover all High Energy data no matter how their data is captured, stored, and used scientifically (Gamma Rays, X-rays, Neutrinos, Gravitational Wave, etc.)
    • We should then discuss the specifics of various data formats and where there is overlap or differences in various data analysis threads.
    • The note should not go into details, but simply expose various topics of interest for an HE IG.
    • Given this big picture, the HE IG will search for common or distinct solutions to data formats that serve the group. As always, tasks will be prioritized based on interest and resources to work on a project.
    • We also have a number of areas of interest: Data formats (including response functions), Observation planning, VO Event.
  • We need to get the IVOA Note in shape to represent the collective view
    • it takes work from the lead author and support from the group to fulfill actions and make contributions within the context of the document goals.
      
      
• Malta plans for session
  • We reviewed whether a plenary or session was our 'ask' for Malta and decided we would request a plenary.
  • FC (from the CSP) suggested to work with CSP on a session with High energy and TDAMM to show a science driver for this work.
  • JE put in a session request on the TCG planning page

UPDATE after the meeting :

• There was a CSP meeting Thu 9/5, where there was more discussion
  • High Energy TDAMM Plenary outline ... let's start here and fine tune:
    • 4 Science presentation(s) covering Xray / Gamma ray/ Neutrino/Gravitational wave
    • Folding into the presentations 4 questions posed to the speaker on use of Alerts, Observation planning coordination, data discovery, data model in their science
    • Followed by a HEIG presentation with our 'ask' to the IVOA to become an IG. Tie this presentation to the Science talks, identify the HE Note and what it outlines, and highlight the topics above from the questions that the HE group will pursue in coordination with the TCG.
  • Organized potential speakers in CSP mtg based on HEIG membership and some folks group knew

• AOB
  • Giueppe Greco provided the following links via email ... needs followup:
    • Some preliminary results are shown in this ADASS proceeding: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aspbooks.org%2Fpublications%2F532%2F167.pdf&data=05%7C02%7Csjs8171%40psu.edu%7C46d5c343032d4e6ea9cc08dcc836057f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638605384041167054%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C60000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2PBYiJKUVPooqBl5s4Uy4sw%2BrA0P55wzIKHAqWB14aM%3D&reserved=0
    • use cases - with the plots in fig. 3 of https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.12867

• Next Mtg: Friday, Sep 27 @13:00 UTC

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