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<span style="color: #630000; font-size: 22.75px; background-color: transparent;">IVOA TCG Telecon </span><span style="color: #630000; font-size: 22.75px; background-color: transparent;">- Tue, 11 Feb 2020 @20:00 UTC </span>

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   * Christine, Christophe, Jesus, Laurent, Marco, Pat, Raffaele, Francesca, Steve, Tim, Tom, Dave, James, Laurent, Markus, Marco, Ada, Bruce, Theresa, Janet
---++ <a name="Regrets"></a><em>Regrets</em>
   * Chenzhou, Bruno
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   * Review Actions (See below) 
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">ACTION: PD/JE: Exec review decision when stable of the doc license choice -</span><strong> OPEN ( _but made a forward plan_)</strong> 
         * *Need to figure out what changes need to added to Doc Standard for license and how we change the copyright*
         * *DM suggested that we make the change going forward and not go back to old static standards*
         * *New work is in Github; will need to ask authors with docs in Volute if they agree to the new license*
         * *Conclusion: **Make a quick pass & send email to editors/authors to see if they agree to the new copyright/license. (PD)*
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">ACTION: TCG - Decide if a central wiki for session coordination is the way to go for Sydney - </span> *OPEN ( _but made a forward plan_)* 
         * *Decided that our current organization toward the IVOA meetings is good*
         * *Agreed to one more layer where a list of topics go to one web page so all WG/IG Chairs/V Chairs can review and coordinate sessions*
         * ***JE will work with Marco on that page and also send an IVOA list email out looking for topics and pointing to the page that folks can add too*
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">ACTION-T0219-5: PD/JE - kick off the Architecture doc effort and distribute tasks to team - </span> *WORKING* 
         * *PD described the effort so far. Noted the challenge in graphically organizing the standards and relationships between them*
         * *MD asked if there was a user overview of the VO planned in the Arch doc (topic came up in an ESCAPE mtg)* 
            * *Pat outlined the audience for the Arch doc is:* 
               1 *Data Providers / Projects*
               1 *Users / Application writers*
               1 *How we operate as a community*
            * *PD noted that we don't know if the doc will serve Users - Projects/Data providers are easier to address. Not sure how other views will come out.*
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">ACTION-T2019 -6: PD/JE: Ask DOC to transfer links to new Publishing on the VO doc when time is right - </span> *OPEN ( _but made a forward plan_)* 
         * ***PD took a followup action to Send an email to the TCG with Publishing Doc links so we can re-address this topic*
         * *Pat noted that we'll have to work to have the links curated if we want to push this through*
   * Northern Spring Interop - <span style="background-color: transparent;">Sydney (May 3-8)</span> 
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Logistics</span> 
         * *Kirribillii Club - https://www.kirribilliclub.com.au*
         * *TCG looking for a local web page with logistics & travel info - **PD/JE will get info and pass it on from Exec mtg on Feb18*
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Sessions</span> 
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> *Hack session proposal (TD)* </span> 
            * *Discussion about having a Hack session/Unconference was positive and endorsed by the TCG; it was agreed that 1 day on Wednesday would be good*
            * *We also discussed getting an email out to the IVOA soon to start collecting topics for the session on a public page where ideas could be added; **JE took action (will first discuss at Exec telecon)*
            * *Could be docs issues where a little coding would help, PyVO projects, reference implementations for standards, hands on training for making a change to the doc given the new process, and more ...*
            * *TD will invite several Astropy developers at MAST given the decision, Steve from IPAC said he may be able to get someone to attend too*
            * *A request from MM was to make it happen without clash to other sessions and with open participation - all agreed*
            * *TD noted that Ideas can come early or on the day; one sentence pitch is all it takes*
   * Current RFC/TCG reviews 
      * See: <a target="_top" href="IvoaTCG#On_going_Recommendations">https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/IvoaTCG#On_going_Recommendations</a>
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Current proposed recommendations</span> 
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> *Provenance - just about there, Markus said he'd sign off for Sematics; PD/JE will follow for TCG to complete (this week is the goal)!!!!* </span>
         * *Measurements & Coords - 2 models - LM has asked MCD to reply to the comments; will touch base with MCD* 
            * *TJ noted that he's been talking to MCD about how to connect a coordinate to a transform; some interactive issues that needs clarification*
         * *SSLDM - open review (MD/Paris group)*
   * <span style="background-color: transparent;">2019B Roadmap review</span> 
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/2019BRoadmap</span> 
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> *Walked through 2019B Roadmaps; most groups have them updated for the current semester* </span>
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> *IGs are a bit behind - Please review; remove 2019A next to your group even if no change.* </span>
   * <span style="background-color: transparent;">TCG items</span> 
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">Consensus on new vocabulary terms: (MD)</span> 
         * <span style="background-color: transparent;">According to the Vocabularies WD, the TCG would decide in </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">consensus on new vocabulary terms. There is one proposed new term </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">that the TCG can decide on, which is</span> 
            * <span style="color: blue; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: underline;">https://volute.g-vo.org/svn/trunk/projects/semantics/veps/VEP-002.txt</span>
      * <span style="background-color: transparent;">RFC candidate: (MD)</span> 
         * <strong><span style="background-color: transparent;">There's the PEN on the Catalogue of ADQL User Defined Functions </span><span style="background-color: transparent;"> </span>http://ivoa.net/documents/udf-catalogue/20190925/<span style="background-color: transparent;"> </span> </strong> 
            * <span style="background-color: transparent;"> *MD sent email this morning (2/12); Please review as outlined in the email;* </span>
            * <strong><span style="background-color: transparent;">The plan is to endorse the UCD words 1.4 at the next TCG meeting </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">without another RFC. </span></strong>
   * <span style="background-color: transparent;">AOB</span>
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   * *NEW* 
      * *PD:* *Make a quick pass & send email to editors/authors to see if they agree to the new copyright/license.*
      * <strong>MM/JE: </strong> *Create central page with topics for the Interop and send an IVOA list email out looking for topics and pointing to the page that folks can add too*
      * <strong>PD: Send an email to the he TCG with Publishing Doc links so we can re-address whether we migrate over and when<br /></strong>
      * <strong>PD/JE will get info on the Syndey Interop and pass it on to the TCG from the Exec mtg on Feb18<br /></strong>
      * *JE: Send an email to IVOA mail list about hack sesion and start/point to a page to start collecting topics (will first present plan to Feb18 Exec mtg)*
   * *OPEN/WORKING* 
      * ACTION: PD/JE: Exec review decision when stable of the doc license choice -<strong> OPEN ( _but made a forward plan_)</strong>
      * ACTION: TCG - Decide if a central wiki for session coordination is the way to go for Sydney - *OPEN ( _but made a forward plan_)*
      * ACTION-T2019 -6: PD/JE: Ask DOC to transfer links to new Publishing on the VO doc when time is right - *OPEN ( _but made a forward plan_)*
   * *REMOVE* 
      * ACTION: MD - write up process description for updaing /rdf maintenance - *REMOVE (taken over by doc coordinator)*
      * ACTION-T0219-5: PD/JE - kick off the Architecture doc effort and distribute tasks to team - *REMOVE ( _overlaps with arch/user docs)_*
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