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IVOA TCG Telecon - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 @20:00 UTC

Last edit -> Feb 12 (JE) - transform to DRAFT mtg notes

Attendees

Christine, Christophe, Jesus, Laurent, Marco, Pat, Raffaele, Steve, Tim, Tom, Dave, James, Laurent, Markus, Marco, Ada, Bruce, Theresa, Janet

Regrets

Chenzhou, Bruno

WebEx

Agenda/Mtg Notes

Review Actions (See below)
- ACTION: PD/JE: Exec review decision when stable of the doc license choice - OPEN ( but made a forward plan)
  - Need to figure out what changes need to added to Doc Standard for license and how we change the copyright
  - DM suggested that we make the change going forward and not go back to old static standards
  - New work is in Github; will need to ask authors with docs in Volute if they agree to the new license
  - Conclusion: **Make a quick pass & send email to editors/authors to see if they agree to the new copyright/license. (PD)
- ACTION: TCG - Decide if a central wiki for session coordination is the way to go for Sydney - OPEN ( but made a forward plan)
  - Decided that our current organization toward the IVOA meetings is good
  - Agreed to one more layer where a list of topics go to one web page so all WG/IG Chairs/V Chairs can review and coordinate sessions
  - **JE will work with Marco on that page and also send an IVOA list email out looking for topics and pointing to the page that folks can add too
- ACTION-T0219-5: PD/JE - kick off the Architecture doc effort and distribute tasks to team - WORKING
  - PD described the effort so far. Noted the challenge in graphically organizing the standards and relationships between them
  - MD asked if there was a user overview of the VO planned in the Arch doc (topic came up in an ESCAPE mtg)
    - Pat outlined the audience for the Arch doc is:
      1. Data Providers / Projects
      2. Users / Application writers
      3. How we operate as a community
    - PD noted that we don't know if the doc will serve Users - Projects/Data providers are easier to address. Not sure how other views will come out.
- ACTION-T2019 -6: PD/JE: Ask DOC to transfer links to new Publishing on the VO doc when time is right - OPEN ( but made a forward plan)
  - **PD took a followup action to Send an email to the TCG with Publishing Doc links so we can re-address this topic
  - Pat noted that we'll have to work to have the links curated if we want to push this through
Northern Spring Interop - Sydney (May 3-8)
- Logistics
  - Kirribillii Club - https://www.kirribilliclub.com.au
  - TCG looking for a local web page with logistics & travel info - **PD/JE will get info and pass it on from Exec mtg on Feb18
- Sessions
  - Hack session proposal (TD)
    - Discussion about having a Hack session/Unconference was positive and endorsed by the TCG; it was agreed that 1 day on Wednesday would be good
    - We also discussed getting an email out to the IVOA soon to start collecting topics for the session on a public page where ideas could be added; **JE took action (will first discuss at Exec telecon)
    - Could be docs issues where a little coding would help, PyVO projects, reference implementations for standards, hands on training for making a change to the doc given the new process, and more ...
    - TD will invite several Astropy developers at MAST given the decision, Steve from IPAC said he may be able to get someone to attend too
    - A request from MM was to make it happen without clash to other sessions and with open participation - all agreed
    - TD noted that Ideas can come early or on the day; one sentence pitch is all it takes
Current RFC/TCG reviews
- See: https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/IvoaTCG#On_going_Recommendations
- Current proposed recommendations
  - Provenance - just about there, Markus said he'd sign off for Sematics; PD/JE will follow for TCG to complete (this week is the goal)!!!!
  - Measurements & Coords - 2 models - LM has asked MCD to reply to the comments; will touch base with MCD
    - TJ noted that he's been talking to MCD about how to connect a coordinate to a transform; some interactive issues that needs clarification
  - SSLDM - open review (MD/Paris group)
2019B Roadmap review
- https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/2019BRoadmap
  - Walked through 2019B Roadmaps; most groups have them updated for the current semester
  - IGs are a bit behind - Please review; remove 2019A next to your group even if no change.
TCG items
- Consensus on new vocabulary terms: (MD)
  - According to the Vocabularies WD, the TCG would decide in consensus on new vocabulary terms. There is one proposed new term that the TCG can decide on, which is
    - https://volute.g-vo.org/svn/trunk/projects/semantics/veps/VEP-002.txt
- RFC candidate: (MD)
  - There's the PEN on the Catalogue of ADQL User Defined Functions http://ivoa.net/documents/udf-catalogue/20190925/
    - MD sent email this morning (2/12); Please review as outlined in the email;
    - The plan is to endorse the UCD words 1.4 at the next TCG meeting without another RFC.
AOB

Actions

NEW
- PD: Make a quick pass & send email to editors/authors to see if they agree to the new copyright/license.
- MM/JE: Create central page with topics for the Interop and send an IVOA list email out looking for topics and pointing to the page that folks can add too
- PD: Send an email to the he TCG with Publishing Doc links so we can re-address whether we migrate over and when
- PD/JE will get info on the Syndey Interop and pass it on to the TCG from the Exec mtg on Feb18
- JE: Send an email to IVOA mail list about hack sesion and start/point to a page to start collecting topics (will first present plan to Feb18 Exec mtg)
OPEN/WORKING
- ACTION: PD/JE: Exec review decision when stable of the doc license choice - OPEN ( but made a forward plan)
- ACTION: TCG - Decide if a central wiki for session coordination is the way to go for Sydney - OPEN ( but made a forward plan)
- ACTION-T2019 -6: PD/JE: Ask DOC to transfer links to new Publishing on the VO doc when time is right - OPEN ( but made a forward plan)
REMOVE
- ACTION: MD - write up process description for updaing /rdf maintenance - REMOVE (taken over by doc coordinator)
- ACTION-T0219-5: PD/JE - kick off the Architecture doc effort and distribute tasks to team - REMOVE ( _overlaps with arch/user docs)_

Topic revision: r7 - 2020-02-14 - JanetEvans

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