Attendees

• Attendees:
  • Brian, Russ, Dave, Jose, Pat, Adrian, Marco, Jesus, Joshua, Marco, Gregory (M), Janet
• Regrets :

Zoom

Highlights

• Work on Prototypes & Documents progressing
• Discussed additional improvements (non-semantic) to the UWS spec. We will raise this topic with the greater IVOA community, and with client implementors specificially.
• Discussed engaging with clients and made a plan to invite them to next mtg
• Next mtg: Oct 16 @20 UTC
• Actions:
  • Janet draft invite to Clients via Apps group after discussing at TCG
  • Dave prepare ~2 slide for clients mtg with P3T prioriites as a reminder
  • JE with P3T help: Prepare mtg page for Client mtg early with links to docs and perhaps a prototype(?!)
  • ALL: Review the draft docs so we present them to the Clients after internal review
  • ALL: Look at each others prototypes to know we're on the right track here too before Client mtg

Meeting Agenda/Notes

• Status Updates
  • Josh (UWS, TAP 1.1)
    • Working prototype; spec we have is very good
    • Reviewed Pat's TAP implementation - TAP splits things apary in nice components while UWS is monlithic
    • Russ wonders whether we should rethink UWS and make some changes (non-semantic)
      • Feedback to that suggestion by folks was that making changes opens a debate in TCG and will complicate the goals of P3T
    • Russ noted that his suggestions are not at the semantic level but at the encoding level ... there was more conversation ... good topic to raise with clients
  • Pat (TAP)
    • Making progress
    • OpenAPI: thinking about how to present a prototype
  • Dave (Execution Broker)
    • Working the execution broker functional prototype & an OpenAPI spec with lessons learned;
    • There is a separation between DM and Serialization
    • OpenAPI not tied to Jason (also use Yaml, XML) - May not be future language -proofed
• IVOA Document
  • Russ - Draft spec is out for review - plan to keep working on it
    • Draft IVOA web service standards framework - https://sqr-091.lsst.io/
    • Draft IVOA SODA web service specification - https://sqr-093.lsst.io/
    • Draft IVOA JSON encoding - https://sqr-092.lsst.io/
• Engaging with existing clients
  • We talked about 2 types of IVOA participants, both of which have different needs:
    • 1) Those working on existing tools on existing standards
    • 2) Those new to the IVOA with from-scratch IVOA standards to implement
  • TAPLint is an important and significant validator
  • We will send an email to Apps and invite them to the next meeting; find out who is willing to get invovled
  • Show clients the doc that describes the docs; sample implementation as an example, Dave will present a few slides to remind of P3T work; JE will draft an email to Apps group; meeting will be Oct 16 @20 UTC unless we get too much push back and need a poll; JE will describe forward plans of client meeting at TCG mtg on Friday (Sep 27)
• Looking ahead to the Nov Interop
  • Topic for next mtg
• Next meetings:
  • Oct 16 @20:00 UTC - with clients
  • ??? - one more in preparation for Nov Interop.