HEIG Meeting (online) - Fri Sep 27, 2024 @ 14:30 UTC

Zoom

• https://smithsonian.zoom.us/j/97478328416?pwd=ZEpmMnI4RGhrS01pazF5dXBLbEsyZz09

Attendees

• Attendees: Laurent, Catherine, Mathieu, Ian, Antara, Jutta, Francesca, Matthias, Francesca, Mark CD, maybe missed a few later joiners??
• Regrets: Ada, Giuseppe

Actions

• NEW
  • Francesca - Complete invitations to Plenary and report if there is a space to fill; add Jutta for a Neutrino presentation to the group.
  • Ian - Followup with conversation to update section 3.2.2 to discuss extreme poison and observable vs physical and other details discussed in the Git Issue you submitted
  • Mathieu - Add Photometry DM to list of DMs with HE interest; HE approaches photometry different than Optical
  • ALL - Consider a presentation to another group on a HE topic ... let's have a strong showing and get involved in this meeting - few topics suggestion in notes below.
  • ALL - Review the Doc as a whole - what's missing, needs update, needs expansion???
• Old/OPEN
  • Giuseppe Greco - writeup project description and use case for GW (Section 2 - see other examples there; also 4.5 for Multi-wavelength)
    • Paper showing user cases - with the plots in fig. 3 of https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.12867.
    • Some preliminary results are shown in this ADASS proceeding: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aspbooks.org%2Fpublications%2F532%2F167.pdf&data=05%7C02%7Csjs8171%40psu.edu%7C46d5c343032d4e6ea9cc08dcc836057f%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C638605384041167054%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C60000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2PBYiJKUVPooqBl5s4Uy4sw%2BrA0P55wzIKHAqWB14aM%3D&reserved=0
    • Laurent - Expand SVOM (France/China) description (Sec 2.2.3) - OPEN
    • Ada - Use cases - Section 4.3 - review/expand (transient) - OPEN (JE had email exchange with Ada - 9/25)
• Old/CLOSED
  • JE request a session at the Interop for the HEIG - DONE
  • Jutta - use case for Neutrino's - DONE
  • Ada/Laurent - Expand XMM description (Section 2.2.2) - DONE
  • Ian/Janet - Tools for data extraction and Vis review (section 3.4) - DONE, 9/26
  • Laurent - Section 5.1.5 - MIVOT description - DONE
  • Mathieu - Provenance section - DONE
  • Mark CD - data models in working drafts - Expand (Section 5.2) - INCOMPLETE
  • Mireille - Obscore table completion (6.2.2); other TODOs in Section 6.2.3 - NEEDS REVIEW

Meeting Agenda

• (Meeting notes added to the agenda and appear in BOLD)
  
  
• General Info
  • IVOA meeting in Malta: Nov 15-17
  • HEIG Plenary request submitted to TCG; asked for early slot; Fri Nov 15 @ 14:00-15:30
• Links to VO and HE Astrophysics Draft: (also linked from HE wiki page)
  • 2024-08-30_VOHE-Note-draft.pdf - PDF
  • https://github.com/ivoa/HighEnergyDataNote - IVOA GitHub
• Malta plans for CSP/HEIG session
  • These are the possible science speakers - inivtes sent out
    • 18+2 - X-ray and Gamma-ray: Brad Cenko (GSFC/Swift) (Phil Evans, implemented obscore for data distribution)
    • 18+2 - GW LVK and Einstein Telescopes: Giuseppe Greco (INGN/EGO-Virgo)
    • 18+2 - Very high energy (include neutrino): Karl Kosack (CTA/HESS)
    • 18+2 - Alert Services: Judy Racusin (NASA/Fermi)
    • 10 minutes talk from HEIG representative givong overview of our activities and asking for the IVOA IG status
  • These are the questions we asked they address:
    • How does your project make their data discoverable? Are data from your project in the IVOA registry? Are there problems in the IVOA Obscore definition preventing or limiting it?
    • What data products are used in your data analysis and are they interoperable with data from other projects? Do you use a data model?
    • What do you use for an alert system? Do you use VOevent, and if not, can you address the issues you see?
    • How do you coordinate follow up observations currently? Are the Observing plan of your project/mission available externally and is there coordination of your project/mission among the HE projects? Are you familiar with the IVOA ObsLocTAP protocol and ObjObsSAP working draft of the IVOA?
  • Can we offer presentations in WG sessions?? Few ideas ... interested in your input ...
    • HE thoughts on Obscore - joint session with Radio/DAL??
      • Findability of HE data - Is it more than Obscore?? How about Catalog data??
    • HE thoughts on HE data formats and how they fit/don't fit into IVOA; or just take one wavelength and tackle that -- contrib to a DM session
    • ??
• IVOA HEIG Note progress
  • Status summary from Mathieu
    • Review Doc actions - thanks to those who worked to close actions and suggest new areas to expand on
    • Discussed Author list - MS will start with those that contributed to the doc via Git as a start
  • What is missing??
    • Are catalogs discussed sufficiently? Should it be a section??
    • Are our topics to pursue as an IG identified well?? Should we add Data discovery, Alerts, Followup Observations?
  • Complete or Draft by Interop?? Needs an end to end review and comment - set action to group
• Need to go to Interop with suggested names for Ch/V Ch to the Exec;; 3 year term;; this is one of the hesitations of the Exec cause it's sometimes hard to find folks to fill those roles. For an Interest group at least the Chair should be a scientist.
  • Bruno suggested by Catherine; thought 2nd person should come from US/NASA
• AOB
  • Note: a new rec - VOEvent 2.1 is in the Request for Comment phase; see link to doc:
    • https://www.ivoa.net/documents/VOEvent/20240522/PR-VOEvent-2.1-20240522.pdf
• Next Mtg: Wednesday Oct 23 @13:00 UTC