IVOA TCG Telecon - Tue, 09 Mar 2021 @15:00 UTC


  • Bruno, Marco, Pat, Chenzhou, Laurent, Tom, Christophe, Ada, Francois, Mark T, Giuliano, Mark CD, Jesus, Henrik, Tim, Markus, Baptiste, Raffaele, Mark L, Theresa, Janet


  • Simon, Matthew Graham, Andre

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Time: Mar 9, 2021 15:00 UTC
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Agenda/Mtg Notes (meeting notes in Bold)

Mar 09 Mtg notes in Bold; Janet - 21Mar10

  • Highlights
    • PLEAS fill in 2020B Roadmaps for your WG/IG if not completed !!
    • The TCG page has been updated with new Recs & Notes - PLEASE Review !!
      • Set End date of reviews to April 23 - our next mtg date
    • We discussed the IVOA Architecture doc and an end date of April; one more step for Pat/Jane to coordinate, then we'll be coming to the TCG
    • IVOA Interop is the week of May 24 over a 4 day perion; Same organization as Nov
      • Agreed to a Joint GWS/Theory Science Platfor series of sessions during the Interop; will need info to pass on in Interop announcement email.
  • Actions - See below
  • Exec mtg summary - from Mar 02 mtg
    • IVOA Northern Spring Virtual Interop - Week of May 24 (4 days)
    • IVOA Northern Fall Virtual Interop - Nov 2-4 (Virtual) - Does that work for TCG??
      • Expect travel to S Africa will not be viable on timescale of meeting
      • S Africa will host and possibly support adding Discord availability to Interop
    • Exec given list of May turnover of WG/IG Ch/V Ch; will be in touch
      • Please forward names you think would be good to serve
      • There's an Exec plan to send an email soliciting names from Interop list
    • CSP charter re-written/accepted by Exec - CSP_Charter_v4.pdf
    • ADASS 2022 - Victoria, BC !!!
  • TCG Business
    • 2020B Roadmaps - PLEASE fill them in for your WG/IG if not completed
    • Proposed Recs
      • Old
        • ObsLOCTAP - Nov 27 end date
          • Mark T working on validator
          • Jesus agree the doc was posted too early for RFC
        • Meas/Coords - No Feedback to RFC
          • Tom D noted that review of github area enabling a a gain of confidence
          • Francois said he had comments that he needed to write up
          • Laurent said workshop not a block on M/C; Review RFC page
          • Pat said he read doc and after getting over a few expectations, it read well
          • Laurent noted it is a VODML generated file and not as easy to read
          • Markus notes a tight coupling of M/C; He asked - If M/C were severed, what could we do?
        • Folks encouraged to read the docs - M/C & Obsloctap and comments !!
      • New - Need reviews
        • SimpleDALRegExt standard 1.2 (2021Jan21)
        • Vocabularies 2.0 (2021Jan14)
        • VODataService 1.2 (01Mar2021)
          • Pat noted that they were thinking of moving the RofR code to Github and turn it into open development; currently hodge/podge of various contributors over many years; Use the Collaborative area currently used for Prototypes/Ops.
    • New Note:
      • UDF Catalogue - Oct 31 end date - TCG voted to accept this note
      • VEP-006 (24Feb21) - New
        • Markus noted this note changes descriptions of existing terms; there is an upcoming Semantic meeting where folks close to the project will have an opportunity to comment; will put on agenda for next TCG mtg
    • IVOA Arch Draft Note - discuss:
      • basic organisation; FAIR arch diagrams; dependency diagram for each section
      • We discussed the current draft of the Arch Draft Note; Was trying to use the FAIR acronym on architecture diagram - good for Exec but doesn't map so well for more detailed diagrams; Decided End of April of goal to wrap up; This note will need to be reviewed/endorsed by the Exec. Also discussed diagrams & format of those diagrams ... folks noted that were hard to keep up to date; Pat suggested they are static for the length of a Arch Doc update; Janet suggested once per TCG term - ~3 years. There was a suggestion that Badges were simpler than diagrams - needs review.
    • Announced Working Drafts: MOC 2.0 - Apps WG (16Nov2020)
      • Discussion brought up the Mathieu was leaving CDS; Suggested he writes things up before he leaves (believe in a few weeks); Apps group will need to follow-up
    • DM Data Annotation workshop (Feb 25) - meeting to present process
      • ~20 participants in all
      • Plan ... Put together use cases; run workshop, report results; Mark CD/Markus/Laurent major players; Github discussion has been very helpful
    • Shortcuts to URLs - standard references (TD email on 12/07 - CA suggested using DOIS) -- Didn't hit this item - for next mtg agenda
    • Planning May Interop
      • Same basic setup as last meetings - same signup using INAF registration system; Janet will get the procedure out and start outlining dates for notices, emails, etc.
      • Week of May 24 ... Start Monday night on US/West coast and end Friday morning; 4 days in all
      • GWS/Theory requested a Joint Science Platform themed workshop to be sprinkled throughout the interop - thinking about 3 or 4 sessions, 24 hours apart. Start with presentations and then go toward discussions. Folks thought it was a good idea. Would like info formulated to be part of the Interop email out to the list to inform potential participants.
  • AOB
  • Next meeting - April 20, 2020 @20:00 UTC (Interop prep)

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  • May IVOA Renewals
    • Pat Dowler Ch, Janet Evans V Ch
    • Working Groups
      • Applications:Tom Donaldson Ch (1 yr ext.), Raffaele D'Abrusco V Ch (1 yr ext)
      • DAL: Marco Molinaro Ch (1 yr ext), James Dempsey V Ch (1 yr ext)
      • Registry: Theresa Dower Ch (1 yr ext), Pierre Le Sidaner V Ch (1 yr ext)
    • Interest Groups
      • DCP: Andre Schaaf Ch (1 yr ext), Tim Jenness V Ch (1 yr ext)
      • KDD: Matthew Graham V Ch (1 yr ext)
      • Education: Chenzhou Cui Ch (No ext), Henrik Heinl V Ch (No ext)
      • Time Domain: Ada Nebot Ch (No ext)
      • Solar System: Baptiste Cecconi Ch (No ext)


    • PD/JE: Exec review decision when stable of the doc license choice - CLOSED
    • PD: Send an email to the TCG with Publishing Doc links so we can re-address whether we migrate over and when -OPEN
    • PD: Port Volute to GitHub; update volute migration document and circulate to get everyone on the same page -Working

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