Provenance meeting in Paris, France, 2017 July 27th afternoon and 28th

supported by OV-France, GAVO, Paris Astronomical Data Center and the ASTERICS Project.


Please insert your name here and your estimated arrival/leaving times.

Surname Organisation Arrival time Leaving time
Michèle Sanguillon LUPM, Montpellier, France 2017 July 27, 13:53 at the train station 2017 July 28, 17:07 from the train station
Mireille Louys CDS, Icube, Strasbourg University 2017 July 27, 12:00 2017 July 28, 18:00
François Bonnarel CDS, Strasbourg University remotely via skype  
Mathieu Servillat LUTH, Meudon, France    
Markus Nullmeier GAVO / Uni Heidelberg 2017 July 27, 13:00 .. 13:30 2017 July 28, 15:00
Kristin Riebe AIP 2017 July 27, 13:15 - 14:00 2017 July 28, 19:00
Anastasia Galkin AIP 2017 July 27. 13:00 2017 July 28 17:00
Ole Streicher AIP 2017 July 27, 13:00 .. 13:30 2017 July 28, 13:03 from the train station
Catherine Boisson LUTH Friday morning  
Julien Lefaucheur LUTH Friday morning  
Karl Kosack CEA Saclay - CTA Maybe on Friday morning  


A room is reserved for us at the Observatoire de Paris, 77, Avenue Denfert-Rochereau, 75014 Paris

We will meet at the class room, B building on the ground floor (label 15 on the map):


Thursday, 27. July 2017

Timeline for draft before Santiago:


  • reminder of the time line for the IVOA provenance DM recommendation
  • The contribution for ADASS and the interop are poster and current status respectively.
    • CTA pipe and activity description in UWS server
    • Poster of Michele
    • poster.jpg poster2.jpg

  • 2- progress on implementations Provenance data tools:

  • ProvDAL questions:
    • Provenence graph is a directional graph. The search on the graph edges is done by key words BACKWARDS and FORWARDS with a numerical value that defines the number of edges taken into account.Implementation of FORWARDS will be optional (voted, 4 pro; 1 against) If not implemented but given, return an error. To get all edges in a direcion, use FORWARDS=ALL resp. BACKWARDS=ALL.If ommitted, they default to zero.

Friday, 28. July 2017

  • CDS serialisation and VOtable format
  • implementation of HiPS generation and simple image processing workflows (CDS, strasbourg) Mireille and François
  • ppt
  • Pollux
  • CTA requirements
  • Discussion on the graph walking. The provenance of a node can be queried in given depth. Keyword BACKWARDS (ALL as default value) and FORWARDS (0 as default) can be used for that. Optional there are following keywords set at false on default:
    • expand_agentrelation
    • expand_flow
    • expand_collection

  • Discussion on the open issues in the draft
  • time plan for the provenance draft to become an IVOA recommendation
    • description classes discussion (started by Mathieu) here or in next section
    • VODML representtaion of the model
    • Fri Morning /reference implementations for the draft: which ones should be ready, which functionality
Topic attachments
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Texttxt 2017-07-27-Provenance-Meeting-Paris-discussion-notes.txt r1 manage 8.8 K 2017-08-02 - 22:14 KristinRiebe Discussion notes, from Kristin
JPEGjpg IMG_20170727_151941214.jpg r1 manage 3274.8 K 2017-07-27 - 13:25 OleStreicher Timeline for draft before Santiago
JPEGjpg IMG_20170728_134058376_2.jpg r1 manage 27.5 K 2017-07-28 - 12:08 AnastasiaGalkin  
JPEGjpg IMG_20170728_134112810_2.jpg r1 manage 1036.0 K 2017-07-28 - 12:02 AnastasiaGalkin  
JPEGjpg IMG_20170728_134145275_2.jpg r1 manage 36.2 K 2017-07-28 - 12:10 AnastasiaGalkin  
PDFpdf Provenance-Implementations-Paris-2017.pdf r1 manage 1647.4 K 2017-07-27 - 16:15 KristinRiebe Talk by Kristin on Progress on RAVE Django web application
Unknown file formatpptx ProvenanceDM-ImplementationStrasbourg_statusJuly2017_28.pptx r1 manage 7519.3 K 2017-07-28 - 14:38 MireilleLouys test data base for provenance @CDS - python script for ingestion and queries
XMLxml cdsInput-vot.xml r1 manage 67.1 K 2017-07-28 - 14:30 MireilleLouys VOtable list of clases to feed the CDS test DB
JPEGjpg poster.jpg r1 manage 83.7 K 2017-07-27 - 13:48 OleStreicher Poster
JPEGjpg poster2.jpg r1 manage 38.8 K 2017-07-27 - 13:48 OleStreicher Poster
JPEGjpg provdal_traversing.jpg r1 manage 42.1 K 2017-07-27 - 15:28 OleStreicher ProvDAL traversing option
XMLxml queryResponse-taplike-VOTable.xml r1 manage 2.1 K 2017-07-28 - 14:33 MireilleLouys query response (taplike) in votable format . F.Bonnarel
Unknown file formatjson queryResponse1-taplike.json r1 manage 2.0 K 2017-07-28 - 14:32 MireilleLouys Query response (taplike) in Json format . François B
JPEGjpeg timeline.jpeg r1 manage 48.9 K 2017-07-27 - 13:29 OleStreicher Timeline for draft before Santiago
JPEGjpg tools.jpg r1 manage 30.5 K 2017-07-27 - 13:57 OleStreicher Provenance data tools
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