P3T Meeting (online) - Mon Jul 15, 2024 @ 20:00 UTC

Attendees

• Attendees: Pat D, Brian M, Gregory DF, Adrian D, Dave M, Jesus S, Joshua F, Jose L, Marco M, Russ A, Sara B, Janet E
• Regrets : Tom D

Highlights

• Continue working prototypes - good start
• Good that Josh is out front on prototype; Aim for wrapping them up mid by Sept so we can address other parts of Phase I
• Consider a BOF at ADASS - signup by Aug 23 (MM/JE post-meeting email exchange)

Meeting Agenda/Notes

• Status Updates - Prototypes / WDs
  • Pat (TAP 1.2, UWS, VOSI):
    • Tooling up with OpenAPI
    • Most of the work will be within VOSI.
    • Plans to use Josh's UWS definition when ready.
  • Josh (UWS, TAP 1.1)
    • Will have a draft version of the API spec; framework for new repo
    • UWS fine as example but not super usable; Fast API in PyPi - for this sprint; all routine with a few gotchas - for example, parameters are a headache.
    • Looking for comments on UWS PR in github, P3T repo.
  • Russ (SODA, UWS) -
    • Good progress on internal UWS library
    • Interested to review & integrate Josh's work; slower start with other work duties but will catch up.
    • Nearly ready to start an internal version of UWS.
  • Dave (Execution Broker)
    • Working prototype in Java and Python; Open_API specification.
    • Struggling to find a code generator for Python; ChapGPT produced code but then you lose everything when the session ends because, generally, it produces different code at each session
  • Brian - asked about clients in the plan - folks mentioned a TAP client; also Josh found an unmaintained python based validator for UWS that he's been updating session ends.
  • Pat made a point that projects can write code so we are not dependent on code generators; writing code is how he plans to approach this work; Believe Josh is going for auto-gen code.
• Schedule discussion - Asked about schedule of projects given our plan and upcoming fall Interop ...
  • Pat thought he'd have his part on a Mid Sep timeframe (~Sep 20)
  • Josh plans to have the UWS prototype in ~2 weeks (End of July)
  • Russ thought a Sept timeframe too; thought there is a PyVO schedule risk
• IVOA Note
  • Folks thought this should come along after prototyping and experience; we'll discuss again at our next mtg
• Review and priority of goals for November interop
  1. Complete prototypes and document lessons learned
  2. Example UWS and TAP WDs with OpenAPI
  3. Note on P3T process
• Email exchanges with some current service providers
  • Concerns in email; Russ did well to manage feedback; discussed concerns with changes and also concerns of new projects going their own way because the IVOA was stuck in past. We need to look more closely and define a path once prototypes are more developed. Will consider interaction with services/clients at next mtg.
• AOB
  • We welcomed Jose Osinde Lopez to the group
  • Marco and Janet exchanged email shortly after the meeting and discussed possibility of BOF at ADASS on P3T; may be good way to involve folks up front and puts less pressure on a 3 day IVOA; Needs consideration from this group - deadline is Aug 23 to sign up for a BOF. We'll exchange email about it in August.
• Next Mtg: Monday, Aug 26 @20:00 UTC