P3T Meeting (online) - Mon Jul 15, 2024 @ 20:00 UTC

Attendees

• Attendees: Pat D, Brian M, Gregory DF, Adrian D, Dave M, Jesus S, Joshua F, Jose L, Marco M, Russ A, Sara B, Janet E
• Regrets : Tom D

Highlights

• Continue working prototypes - good start
• Good that Josh is out front on prototype; Aim for wrapping them up mid by Sept so we can address other parts of Phase I
• Consider a BOF at ADASS - signup by Aug 23

Meeting Agenda/Notes

• Status Update - Prototypes / WDs
  • TAP 1.2 (CADC/MAST)
    • Pat - tooling up with OPEN_API; will work VOSI tables 1st
    • Josh - have a draft version of the API spec; framework for new repo
  • UWS (Rubin/MAST) -
    • Josh - UWS fine as example but not super usable; Fast API in PyPy - for this sprint; all routine with a few gotchas - for example, parameters are a headache.
    • Russ - Interested to review integrate Josh's work; slower start with other work duties but will catch up
    • Brian - asked about clients in the plan - folks mentioed a TAP client; also Josh founf an unmaintained python based validator for UWS that he's been updating
  • Execution Broker
    • Dave - Working prototype in Java and Python; Open_API specification. Struggling for code generator for Python; ChapGPT produced code but then you lose everything when the session ends.
    • Pat made a point that projects can write code so we are not dependent on code generators; writing code is how he plans to approach this work; Beleive Josh is going for auto-gen code.
• Schedule discussion - Asked about schedule of projects given our plan and upcoming fall Interop ...
  • Pat thought he'd have his part on a Mid Sep timeframe (~Sep 20)
  • Josh plans to have the UWS prototype in ~2 weeks (End of July)
  • Russ thought a Sept timeframe too; thought there is a PyVO schedule risk
• IVOA Note
  • Folks thought this should come along after prototyping and experience with new direction; we'll discuss again at our next mtg
• Email exchanges with some current service providers
  • Concerns in email; Russ did well to manage feedback;; discussed concerns with changes and also concerns of new projects going their own way because the IVOA was stuck in past. We need to look more closely and define a path once prototypes are more developed. Will consider interaction with services/clients at next mtg.
• AOB
  • We welcomed Jose Osinde Lopez to the group
  • Marco and Janet exchanged email shortly after the meeting and discussed possibility of BOF at ADASS on P3T; may be good way to involve folks up front and puts less pressure on a 3 day IVOA; Needs consideration from this group - deadline is Aug 23 to sign up for a BOF. We'll exchange email about it in August.
• Next Mtg: Monday, Aug 26 @20:00 UTC