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---+ P3T Meeting (online) - Mon Jul 15, 2024 @ 20:00 UTC

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---++ Attendees
   * Attendees: Pat D, Brian M, Gregory DF, Adrian D, Dave M, Jesus S, Joshua F, Jose L, Marco M, Russ A, Sara B, Janet E
   * _Regrets_ : Tom D
---++ Highlights
   * Continue working prototypes - good start
   * Good that Josh is out front on prototype; Aim for wrapping them up mid by Sept so we can address other parts of Phase I
   * Consider a BOF at ADASS - signup by Aug 23 (MM/JE post-meeting email exchange)
---++ Meeting Agenda/Notes
   * Status Updates - Prototypes / WDs
      * Pat (TAP 1.2, UWS, VOSI):
         * Tooling up with OpenAPI
         * Most of the work will be within VOSI.
         * Plans to use Josh's UWS definition when ready.
      * Josh (UWS, TAP 1.1)
         * Will have a draft version of the API spec; framework for new repo
         * UWS fine as example but not super usable; Fast API in PyPi - for this sprint; all routine with a few gotchas - for example, parameters are a headache.
         * Looking for comments on UWS PR in github, P3T repo.
      * Russ (SODA, UWS) -
         * Good progress on internal UWS library
         * Interested to review & integrate Josh's work; slower start with other work duties but will catch up.
         * Nearly ready to start an internal version of UWS.
      * Dave (Execution Broker)
         * Working prototype in Java and Python; Open_API specification.
         * Struggling to find a code generator for Python; ChapGPT produced code but then you lose everything when the session ends because, generally, it produces different code at each session
      * Brian - asked about clients in the plan - folks mentioned a TAP client; also Josh found an unmaintained python based validator for UWS that he's been updating
      session ends.
      * Pat made a point that projects can write code so we are not dependent on code generators; writing code is how he plans to approach this work; Beleive Josh is going for auto-gen code.
   * Schedule discussion - Asked about schedule of projects given our plan and upcoming fall Interop ...
      * Pat thought he'd have his part on a Mid Sep timeframe (~Sep 20)
      * Josh plans to have the UWS prototype in ~2 weeks (End of July)
      * Russ thought a Sept timeframe too; thought there is a PyVO schedule risk
   * IVOA Note
      * Folks thought this should come along after prototyping and experience; we'll discuss again at our next mtg
   * Review and priority of goals for November interop
      1 Complete prototypes and document lessons learned
      1 Example UWS and TAP WDs with OpenAPI
      1 Note on P3T process
   * Email exchanges with some current service providers
      * Concerns in email; Russ did well to manage feedback; discussed concerns with changes and also concerns of new projects going their own way because the IVOA was stuck in past. We need to look more closely and define a path once prototypes are more developed. Will consider interaction with services/clients at next mtg.
   * AOB
      * We welcomed Jose Osinde Lopez to the group
      * Marco and Janet exchanged email shortly after the meeting and discussed possibility of BOF at ADASS on P3T; may be good way to involve folks up front and puts less pressure on a 3 day IVOA; Needs consideration from this group - deadline is Aug 23 to sign up for a BOF. We'll exchange email about it in August.
   * *Next Mtg: Monday, Aug 26 @20:00 UTC*

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Topic revision: r4 - 2024-07-19 - SaraBertocco

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