Room 1-2
Participants: ~50
• What is your science platform?
• How can our platforms work together or interoperate?
• How are we approaching HPC or cloud resources (public or provate)
• The role of IVOA standards.
• Let make our platform sustainable.
CADC introduces the CANFAR platform and the ARCADE science platform on top of it. ARCADE is a Desktop oriented Science Platform for data reduction. The design has been done for ALMA users.
CADC platform is "entirely" based on IVOA standards. It offers DOI to assign to VOSpace nodes.
Q: how can we implement an efficent data transfer? Can we introduce a off line data transfer service?
SciServer is a platform user oriented that implements resource sharing, agnostic storage to host and share datasets, query and analysis tools. Is can be used as collaborative workspace. It can be installed with K8S and HELM. It can be used to explore CPU and GPU computing or to access DASK or SQL Server 2019 Big Data Studio.
Q: how can I make my SP interoperate? in practice how can a user execute a contaner based on my image on another science platform?
Q: sustainbility problem, I have a finite resourcepool, can I make my SP able to deploy on commercial clouds so that users pay for it? Is it a functional sustainability approach?
STScl open source oriented science platform that profit of github and AWS clouds. It uses K8S HELM and Docker and provide Jupyterh Labs to users.
Q: Security How do we secure the environment from external and internal sources? How do we control exclusive access data in the environment?
Q: Collaboration How do we provide an environment that enables collaboration while being secure?
Q: Observability What are the important metrics to monitor? How do we have real time insight into the system?
Q: Cost How do we control costs for different users and different use cases? How do we provide access for different users?
CDS Science platform concepts A science platform could provide an access to Simbad and VizieR through APIs, visualisation through Aladin Lite (ipyaladin) and python tools for HiPS and MOC, computational facilities to X-Match catalogues.
Comment: It must be well framed and sized, complementary to the services and developed with scientists for scientists => scientific sustainability
Q: storage space is necessary and must be allocated
Q: Can we accept external Containers?
LSST science platform allows accessing to data and processing for LSST. There are three interactive ways of exploring the data portal (discovery, structured work flow between datasets, querries), notebook environment (ipython, contemporary hub technologies) and public API/VO and REST.
VO-CLOUD is an example of science paltform that implements batch processing based on UWS VO standard and it is focusing on interactive Machine learning: "active learning".
The European funded project ESCAPE is developing a science platform on top of European Open Science Cloud. It will include VO data access standards, AARC compliant authentication and authorization, containers from the ESCAPE software market place and EOSC market-place.
Q: what can IVOA provides to simplify the design and implementation?
The Virtual Observatory point of view (not IVOA) identify some important items to build real interoperability and in particular what is missing and what is already available:
The use of OAuth tokens for authentication has been discussed by IA2 Sonia Zorba that introduce the problems related to the use of tokens outside the browser and web enviroment. We must support also CLI and terminals so this is crucial for Astronomers.
Q: should we build complex clients or use separate AA for CLI?
Q: what about using certificates? PKI is still very supported and secure.
Conclusions
We identify three different science platforms types:
Actions:
We identify research area for the future:
IVOA has a central role but we do not want to "reinvent the weel" so let see also what is the activity of large commercial data providers.
Continue the discussion on IVOA framework and also in ADASS in a couple of years
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00-ADASS-SP-BoF.pptx | r1 | manage | 467.2 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:27 | GiulianoTaffoni | |
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01-ADASS2019_SciencePlatform_BoF_CANFAR.pptx | r1 | manage | 9356.9 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:28 | GiulianoTaffoni | |
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02-science_platforms_bof_-_gerard.pptx | r1 | manage | 6403.9 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:29 | GiulianoTaffoni | |
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03-adass_bof.pptx | r1 | manage | 1896.4 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:29 | GiulianoTaffoni | |
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04-ADASS-2019-BoF-SP-CDS.pdf | r1 | manage | 13715.9 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:29 | GiulianoTaffoni | |
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06-BoF-VOCLOUD-Skoda.pdf | r1 | manage | 1259.5 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:29 | GiulianoTaffoni | |
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07-2019-10-09_ESCAPE_ESAP.pdf | r1 | manage | 3276.8 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:29 | GiulianoTaffoni | |
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08-OAuth2___OIDC_on_Science_Platforms_V2.pdf | r1 | manage | 650.2 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:29 | GiulianoTaffoni | |
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09-MolinaroMorris_ADASSXXIX_BoF8.pdf | r1 | manage | 549.2 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:29 | GiulianoTaffoni | |
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ADASS2019-BoF-Summary.pptx | r1 | manage | 1011.8 K | 2019-10-10 - 09:41 | GiulianoTaffoni |
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